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To: OldDeckHand

Why? Hitler assumed dictatorial powers - Obama has announced that he intends to do the same.

You mentioned Bush NOT spending money by executive order - but, that is a world of difference.

The Executive has always had the authority to NOT spend the money.

Obama has announced an intent to spend money not authorized.

And that is illegal.


315 posted on 01/28/2010 5:23:46 PM PST by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: patton
"The Executive has always had the authority to NOT spend the money."

Not according to the Supreme Court. See Horne v. Flores, and about a dozen other cases where the Supreme Court ordered that a particular administration spend money it refused to spend. The Executive can't pick and choose what programs it's going to operate, and which ones it isn't.

You're comparing the ability of a US President, presumably any US President to issue an Executive Order with the action of a dictator issuing an edict or ruling by fiat. The comparison is a fallacy, and to make it one must be entirely devoid of intellectual honesty or logic. There are no checks on the Dictator - hence the name. But, there are a myriad of checks on the Executive, to include his ability to issue Executive Orders.

324 posted on 01/28/2010 5:33:29 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: patton; OldDeckHand

You have to understand, patton, that for OldDeckHand the law is a way to shackle the pro-life advocates. We must follow the strict letter of the law, no matter how much it renders our effort futile.

Note how often he refers to constitutional legal process viz. the pro-life movement, yet never acknowledges that the anti-life law skirted that same legal process. Note how he never acknowledges that abortion became “LAW” much the same way Hitler’s edicts did - not through a constitutional democratic process, but through dictatorial fiat.

Nevermind that America was brought into existence to defend the right to life. Nevermind that this very purpose was upended by a handful of jurists. They can get away with it. But no, pro-lifers have to be handcuffed by the Constitution, jumping hurdle after legalistic hurdle before he’ll sign off on our right to defend helpless little babies. “Dot all your i’s and cross all your t’s - in triplicate - and then we’ll talk about stopping the bloodshed and butchery.”

Hmm. Reminds me of those who want to grant terrorists a criminal trial. That ain’t no way to win a war, and this ain’t no way to save babies’ lives. One is national suicide, and the other is legalized mass homicide.


331 posted on 01/28/2010 5:47:14 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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