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McCain Challenger J.D. Hayworth Is No Conservative Hero
http://www.politicsdaily.com ^ | 01/27/10 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 01/27/2010 10:49:42 AM PST by Maelstorm

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To: St. Louis Conservative
Immigration, legal and illegal, has had and will continue to have a major and far-reaching impact across a broad spectrum of existential challenges that confront this nation, e.g., national security, the economy/global competitiveness, jobs, health care, taxes, energy independence, education, entitlement reform, law enforcement, social welfare programs, physical infrastructure, the environment, civil liberties, and a continued sense of national identity/shared sense of endeavor.

Immigration policy is the defining issue of our time with enormous implications for the future of this nation and the preservation of our patrimony. Changes to our existing immigration policies should be an integral part of the solutions to our problems. Yet, rarely will you read or hear immigration policy linked to these challenges by the political and media elites.

An amnesty will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen. If passed, everything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

61 posted on 01/27/2010 12:03:00 PM PST by kabar
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To: Jim Robinson
McCain=McKLA

John McCain armed the KLA

62 posted on 01/27/2010 12:03:54 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

So, JD is a Rino too? Okay, I’ll bite. What is the conspiracy between Hayworth and Heflin? And don’t tell me its about them both supporting the farm bill, or Abramoff either.


63 posted on 01/27/2010 12:04:18 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Maelstorm

Hayworth or McCain...?

I’ll take Hayworth. Go J.D.!


64 posted on 01/27/2010 12:05:36 PM PST by pallis
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To: kabar

So what? People talk about the Keating Five like McCain was a scumbag backroom dealer, and it’s pretty much a nothingburger. Moreover, my point that it was a Dem-run railroading remains absolutely, positively ironclad. The fact that the guy shows some all-too-rare humility about it is a plus, not an indictment.

So, you can keep doing the work of the Dems, or you can focus on McCain’s real faults. And one wonders if you’ll be posting about Hayworth and Abramov in a few years as if it’s the worst thing a congresscritter ever did...


65 posted on 01/27/2010 12:07:26 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mamzelle

See post 37. The Keting Five is a nothingburger, and people who continue to bring it up are misinformed or dishonorable. It’s not like McCain hasn’t got plenty of other faults.


66 posted on 01/27/2010 12:09:04 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Yes, but when you have all bad primary candidates, as in the 2008 presidential primaries, you end up with a bad candidate for the general election.


67 posted on 01/27/2010 12:09:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Reagan Man

I never said JD was a RINO. I was saying that no conservative should be pushing the Keating Five nothingburger railroad job.


68 posted on 01/27/2010 12:13:01 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
>>>>>The Keting Five is a nothingburger, people who continue to bring it up are misinformed or dishonorable.

KMA! Your support for McCain at this point is what is truly dishonorable. For the truly misinformed, like you, see post #56.

69 posted on 01/27/2010 12:14:03 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

True, I’m just saying that we need to have our eyes open.


70 posted on 01/27/2010 12:14:28 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I'll keep bringing it up--have read lots and lots about Keating 5, and Cindy's dealings, too. You might be able to demonstrate that McCain was one of the lesser culpables, but that's as far as your argument will go. And you can call me any name you please. The HONORABLE thing for McCain to do is to reture with his career as it is.

But it's gratifying to see how the well-financed McCainiacs think FR is important.

71 posted on 01/27/2010 12:17:30 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: Reagan Man
Post 56 was to me. I saw it. I responded to it. It does nothing to change the fact that the Dems on the ethics panel roped McCain into their investigation for the sole purpose of covering their party's ass. The Keating Five should have been the Keating Four and that's reality.

Like I said...people who continue to push the Keating Five are either misinformed or dishonorable. And you've proved you aren't misinformed, sir.

72 posted on 01/27/2010 12:18:09 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Reagan Man; All
I think we can all agree that there isn't, nor ever will be, a perfect candidate. There will always be (and should always be) something we disagree with them on.

We should also be very careful of the 'anybody but _______' syndrome as well. Desperation to get rid of someone else often means ignoring policy flaws for immediate gain.

That said, JD isn't perfect. But he's far, far better than McCain. McCain has more than wore out is welcome, and its time for him to go.

73 posted on 01/27/2010 12:18:09 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: mnehring

Shadegg has far more respect by the people than JD.
Especially not having the baggage.


74 posted on 01/27/2010 12:18:22 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Mr. Silverback
LOL. McCain admitted he made a mistake in judgment. Simple as that. The McCain supporters are casting aspersions about Hayworth's connection with Abramoff, but JD was found guilty of nothing. It is just some more smear tactics.

McCain follows a scorched earth policy when it comes to attacking his "fellow" Reps, but it is kid gloves and respect when dealing with the Dems. McCain is probably still pissed that he could not choose Lieberman as his running mate. He ran the worst Presidential campaign in history. He is Johnny One-Note who has been running on his POW status ever since he entered office. McCain has a sense of entitlement. Obama squashed him like a bug.

McCain must be defeated at all costs.

75 posted on 01/27/2010 12:21:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: fieldmarshaldj
‘DUMP McCAIN !

GO HAYWORTH !’

This is the bottom line.
The best thing Mr. McCain did was to put Governor Sarah Palin on as his Vice Presidential Nominee. This was out of abject fear that he would lose every State in the election.
TWB

76 posted on 01/27/2010 12:27:20 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Islam is an ideology with several elements of Judeo Christian traditions)
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To: Mamzelle
You might be able to demonstrate that McCain was one of the lesser culpables,

When a conservative is to the left of Bob Bennett, and is agressively pushing forward from that position...well, let's just say it doesn't look Reaganesque.

But it's gratifying to see how the well-financed McCainiacs think FR is important.

Another way you can tell if you're lost in the woods is if you read something written by a nine and a half year freeper who has posted too many criticisms of Juan McCain to count and decide that he must be on the McCain campaign's payroll, because if he wasn't, he'd agree with you.

Time to get a grip.

77 posted on 01/27/2010 12:27:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

You need to pay atention. My first post was quite clear. JD Hayworth was cleared of any wrong doing in the Abhramoff scandal. Period. McCain was cleared of any impropriety with Keating, but publicaly criticized for poor judgment. Connecting Keating with Abramoff is a red herring at this point. Got it now? No should be defending any politico who goes off track.

So don’t confuse the issue. Your defense and support of McCain is what is dishonorable.


78 posted on 01/27/2010 12:32:53 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: kabar
LOL. McCain admitted he made a mistake in judgment. Simple as that.

JD probably said something similar about the Abramoff connections. What you're basically saying is that if two guys do something unwise but legal and are smeared by Dems, we should treat one as a criminal and the other as a hero of conservatism.

Wrong answer.

And BTW, just so we're clear, when i said I wondered if you'd be talking about JD and Abramoff in six years, that was a comment about you, not JD. I have no reason to believe he did anything wrong, but I have reason to believe (because you proved it) that you have a double standard.

McCain must be defeated at all costs.

Translation: Let's play checkers. Chess is for morans.

79 posted on 01/27/2010 12:34:12 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: jonrick46
The only hope I have for McCain is that he undergoes a transformation by the fire of battle.

Of course he will transform, until after the election, just to fool the rubes.

80 posted on 01/27/2010 12:35:00 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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