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To: bvw

I think I am not so ‘quick’ to make excuses that I cannot pause to consider these instances on a case by case basis.
I consider Hasan’s murderous rampage the result of his commitment to Islam.
I consider this man’s murderous rage a result of his own issues and if he isn’t legally insane then he is ‘mere’ evil and if he is legally insane then it explains why a man would kill his own little niece and cut off her head with a machete. I think he is using the ROP (Religion of Peace) whose extremists have already committed more murderous evil than I can comprehend, to justify his own vile desire to kill, kill, kill.
You don’t have to be Muslim to commit murder, even heinous familial slaughter. We’ve experienced plenty of murderous rampages in our own country among persons of various backgrounds and faiths - I need not ‘resort’ to assuming if a man kills his family he must be Muslim.
The Muslim friends I have had have not possessed the desire to offend anyone, let alone kill them.
The fact that he converted to Islam prior to the murders is not separable from the crime but it need not be causal. In this case, I don’t think it is.


134 posted on 01/26/2010 10:30:08 AM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

You jumped up to say “Not related to being Muslim!”

That willingness to jump in with ready-conclusion based upon facts you simply do not know, to jump to the bad side so quickly, is something that the world of men is born into. But it is the mud to bake, form and build with, or else to wash off. It is not something to throw at others.

I said this sad event was related to being Muslim, because Islam attracts the confused in our times, and because Islam by lacking adequate self-levels of appropriate organizational self-criticism, and because it is founded in a horridly confused mythos and ‘teachings’, has come to encourage murderous philosophies and to train the confused in murderous hates, envies and jealousies.

Yes, this man was confused on his own — but within Islam his confusions were either pushed into murderous impulse or his pre-existing murderous impulse was encouraged. And yes, that was done ‘In Texas’. I do not jump up to confuse, or to capture others in any sort of sectarian hatred, or like you and others to spread the blame around, to make excuses.

I jump in here to say — YOU stop jumping in to defame others with a blame that properly is seated upon the adherents of the sect of Islam. And by so doing attempt to shut down a vigilance and wariness of that sect which is needed in our day.


138 posted on 01/26/2010 11:12:54 AM PST by bvw
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