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To: etraveler13
By the way, the attorney does not have to have standing, just the client.

Duh. When you had asked why I wasn't filing any suits I assumed you meant on my own behalf. But Orly doesn't seem to be having any luck finding clients with standing to sue either.

IMO they all have standing, especially Alan Keyes...now why does the court disagree?

Maybe the judges don't have your creative imagination? Why do you think they all have standing to sue?

They have never explained, just made the pronouncement.

Read the decisions. The judges lay out their reasons there.

According to the definition of “Standing”, at the very least, Alan Keyes has standing....

I'm familiar with the definition of standing. Why do you think Keyes qualifies?

104 posted on 01/27/2010 5:50:42 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

This was Carters Decision:
Judge Carter ruled that the non-candidate plaintiffs, which included various military personnel and a few state legislators, do not have standing. He was hesitant to rule that Alan Keyes lacks standing, because Keyes did run against Obama in the presidential election of November 2008. On the other hand, the judge emphasized that Keyes’ showing was so weak, that he could not possibly have been elected; he was only on the ballot in three states. The decision says, “It does seem highly unlikely that the replacement of President Obama with another Democratic nominee such as Hillary Clinton would have resulted in a victory for Plaintiffs Keyes, Drake of the American Independent Party.” But, the decision says, “The Court is troubled by the idea that a third party candidate would not have standing to challenge a major party candidate’s qualifications.”

The decision then decides not to decide the question of whether Keyes had standing, and instead rules that even if Keyes does have standing, his suit must fail because it was not filed until after Obama was sworn into office (the judge notes that the case was filed at 3:26 pm Pacific time, January 20, 2009). The decision then says that the power to remove a sitting president from office resides with Congress, not the Judicial Branch. The decision says, “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States.”
It confuses me that Carter says Keyes MAY have standing, but that the date of filing is at issue. Standing is standing. Carter did not rule that he did not have standing.


105 posted on 01/27/2010 7:38:30 PM PST by etraveler13
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To: Non-Sequitur

Quote: By the way, the attorney does not have to have standing, just the client.
Duh. When you had asked why I wasn’t filing any suits I assumed you meant on my own behalf. But Orly doesn’t seem to be having any luck finding clients with standing to sue either.


I said...”Again, your speaking as if you could do better, and know the system better than she does. If that’s true, why are you not filing masterpieces.”

To file with the court, you would have to have standing or represent someone who has standing. I believe that anyone can file, but usually lawyers do...you MUST be a lawyer for you to critique her as you do. So I must presume that no person in your opinion has standing. No person has been hurt as a direct result of his usurpation of the constitution and the office of President. If that is not true, and Carter has not even definitively concluded that base on my previous post. I think many people have been hurt financially, physically, emotionally, politically by the definition of “Standing”
Definition:
Standing or locus standi is the term for ability of a party to demonstrate to the court sufficient connection to and harm from the law or action ...
Therefore, if you can do a better job, do it. If your not qualified, don’t pretend your are, and if you think that someone better in your estimation that Taits could succeed, say so, that means there is standing. Or that nobody including Taits could succeed, so its a fools errand. IMO, your an armchair quarterback on this issue...again JMO...


106 posted on 01/27/2010 7:51:30 PM PST by etraveler13
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