Posted on 01/24/2010 4:52:57 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
Of course it is just not the birth certificate. It is his admissions form to Occidental College, admission to Harvard, how he paid for Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. I personally believe that someone is going to come up with something within this year.
Sure and we’d be so much better off with Biden as president.
And the rioting that would consume all our inner cities would be something too, eh?
Let’s keep him in til the election then out with all the trash.
Another possibility on this avenue is that the democrat party is disgraced forever and Americans refuse to ever vote for a democrat again after they knowingly foisted an illegal candidate upon American and then lied about it for a couple of years. The conspiracy criminal charges could (and should if it were true) remove the top half of the democrat party leadership.
Or, if as you suggest here, Obama is removed but the democrats continue to deny it, then we get civil war.
When you consider how many people Obama has thrown under the bus, would the dems hesitate to throw HIM under the bus if they saw an advantage in doing it?
What kind of dirt do you think? All kinds of stuff was tried on them in the 1990’s and he still got elected twice and she was the frontrunner for much of 2007-8.
Consider this scenario, the Democrats actually let “birther” investigations to go forward, publicly condemning the Republicans for pushing the issues, while quietly not impeding or even facilitating them . Two outcomes can happen. Obama is proven eligible and the Republicans are embarrassed and fall from public grace.......
This argument was given earlier when Clinton and Obama were running for nomination. It obviously did not happen.
The only weak spot I see in your theory — not that I see the Rats taking this route, however — is that there is one huge risk for the Rats:
If Obama were found actually to be ineligible for some reason, yes, in this theory, the Rats benefit by shedding Obama without having their fingerprints on his downfall.
But I think this underestimates the anger that would be exploded at the Rats for (1) doing nothing to vet the eligibility of their own candidate, (2) the sheer amount of crap this President has put the country through and he was never even eligible to serve, (3) the years of Rat cauterwalling about how stupid and dangerous birthers were only for the birthers to be proven right, and (4) the dawning realization that the system, most particularly the Rats, compromised our Constitution and our national security by opening us to a Manchurian candidate.
IOW, even if the goal were to get rid of Obama and that was accomplished, this “victory” would still be at a very high political price for the Rats. I think if something that fundamental as to eligibility were proven, the anger that the Rats fielded such a nominee in the first place would be incredible. This would be the unpardonable political sin.
Ping.
They would in a New York second!
Hoping it gets “legs”.
What if a positive , like being a “Constitutionalist,” becomes the most powerful political talisman, replacing the negative “racist?”
Who do you think started all this? The original birther was Phil Berg, a strong Clinton friend and supporter.
Points taken, but you can bet there would be heated, and partisan debate in the Supreme Court, and if the conservative viewpoint won out, the Democrats would use the old “right wing conspiracy” and link everything to that while declaring innocence for Obama. Nothing garners sympathy more than prosecuting an innocent man.
I have to disagree.
Our side could simply say: “Why didn’t the liberal media VET Barack Obama? Why did they allow him to slide by w/out showing his Long Form BC or his College Transcripts etc etc. ?? Why did Nancy Pelosi and other party leaders SIGN a document verifying his elegibility? Why are you angry at us for upholding the constitution?
We would have many many cards to play in such a scenario.
The American people (remember Mass. Va. NJ.) would be furious at the media and the dems for enabling Obama to screw over the Constitution.
Whatever.
The point is, if he is not constitutionally qualified, then he shouldn’t be there, and should be removed.
End of debate.
Although I am an agnostic on the birth issue, the biggest argument AGAINST there being any fire among the smoke is that Shrillary! did not use it in the primary. And as we all know, the Clintons have THE BEST dirt diggers.
I agree with you. They would be furiously spinning just as you said. Still, I think in the end, when it started dawning on people that this wasn’t doofuses crashing a WH dinner, it’s the POTUS, the anger would be unbelievable.
Also maybe it wouldn’t play out the way you’re thinking -— with SCOTUS involvement and all that. I can see scenarios where evidence is uncovered, the SCOTUS says here’s the legal (constitutional) standard, you, Congress, apply it and then we’ll talk. IOW, where the Rats are forced into action earlier in the process.
"Funny" in a tragic sort of way...
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