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To: 101voodoo

Even the E model is older than the first Typhoons. Another reason why anything less than 300 Raptors is irresponsible.

The 493rd flies Cs out of Lakenheath. I’m surprised they can still certify the airframes on them.

I don’t know what block version the Spanish EF2000s are.

The public’s complacency on the U.S.’s aircraft really bugs me. Now that the 2018 bomber has been killed, I suppose we’ll expect the Buffs to keep going another 40-50 years. Good thing the Phantom IIs got used as QFs, or they’d probably want to save money by reactivating them, too. :P


7 posted on 01/23/2010 2:32:44 AM PST by saundby
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To: saundby; benewton; sonofstrangelove; 101voodoo; maxwellsmart_agent

Beating 40 year old F-15 was their goal?

In testing, a single F-22 wipes out multiple F-15s or F-16s without breaking a sweat. Teams of 2-3 F-22s take out double digit teams of F-15s/F-16s.

It’s not even a matter of superior acrobatics—the F-15s and F-16s don’t even get to play. They’re the most advanced fighters on the planet, and they get killed before they even know the F-22 is airborne.

The F-22s have to radio them to let them know they’re dead. In one report I read, the F-22s can actually catch up to the F-15s and F-16s, “kill” them, and stay undetected as they get close enough to jump into the F-15’s/F-16’s field of vision.


8 posted on 01/23/2010 3:09:49 AM PST by BobbyT
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To: saundby

Break out the old A-1 Skyraiders aka “Spad”. What the heck. Cheaper to fly than a jet and it was a hell of a ground attack airplane. Might be more green than a jet, too. Now there’s a real plus. Probably not with that big old radial engine, though.


9 posted on 01/23/2010 3:13:57 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: saundby
Even if we bought all 381 F-22s as originally planned, F-15C's will be in the inventory for another 20 years. There is a program underway to upgrade around 150 C's with AESA radar, Helmet mounted cueing sight system, and AIM-9X missiles.

That will take care of any Eurofighter problem. Currently the Eurofighter has an all-aspect IR missile, and the pilot simply needs to look at his target to achieve a lock-on. F-15Cs without the HMCSS have to point the nose of the aircraft at the target to achieve missile lock.

That's quite a disadvantage, as we found out after the reunification of Germany when MiG-29s wacked our F-16s.

15 posted on 01/23/2010 4:25:39 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: saundby

Don’t we still have a few P-38’s laying around somewhere? If prop aircraft are good enough for the Brits. why not us? All liberals will agree with me, I’m sure.


22 posted on 01/23/2010 6:11:42 AM PST by 101voodoo
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