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To: justa-hairyape
Just noticed something very interesting in that article on Florida fish deaths that occurred a couple of weeks ago. Check this quote out.

``Based on what I saw in 1977 and 1989, there is a good chance we'll have a second wave,'' said William Loftus, a longtime aquatic ecologist for Everglades National Park.

So the last two times Florida had major fish kills were in 1977 and 1989. Guess what part of the solar cycle those kills occurred within ? Right at the end of the solar minimum.

So the Fish in Florida are better metrics then ape graphs built with crooked data. Been here and done this before. Nature is the most accurate tool out there and apes continue to ignore it at our peril.

32 posted on 01/23/2010 5:46:35 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
So the last two times Florida had major fish kills were in 1977 and 1989. Guess what part of the solar cycle those kills occurred within ? Right at the end of the solar minimum.

Should probably clarify this for the thread. From what I saw looking at sunspots and comparing them to weather trends a few years ago, the earth in general is colder starting from the peak of the solar minimum to the peak of the solar maximum (upslope). It is warmer in general starting from the peak of the solar maximum to the peak of the solar minimum (downslope). The delay factor is one of the main causes. We can see a similar effect during summer and winter as the latter months of the changed seasonal sunlight exposure extreme generally have the greatest temperature extreme. However, this physical phenomenon is more intense with respect to the suns sunspot cycle because the early part of the solar active period has its sunspots located higher in latitude on the suns surface. So less activity enters the planetary rotational plane. That angle of exposure physics is related to the physics that affects our seasonal temperature differences. The fish kill and Florida freeze that occurred in 1989 happened during the end of the colder period near the peak of the solar maximum (upslope). The fish kill event in 1977 happened during the start of the upslope period. This appears to fit well for the last two solar cycles if your ignore metrics that have become politicized, such as Average Temperatures and El Ninos. Granted, long term planetary oceanic cycles and atmospheric pressure cycles can also affect temperatures, so in general the theory above applies to solar flux forcing. And if that theory is correct, we have 2 more years of cooling events to endure, assuming of course that the sun enters moderate to strong solar activity at its peak in Solar Cycle 24.

49 posted on 01/24/2010 5:53:29 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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