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Health plan in doubt as Dems reject fast fix (Secret transparent CommieCare™ meeting this weekend)
Tulsa World ^ | 1/22/10 | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 01/22/2010 3:02:19 PM PST by Libloather

Health plan in doubt as Dems reject fast fix
By CHARLES BABINGTON Associated Press
Last Modified: 1/22/2010 6:06 AM

WASHINGTON — Though reeling from a political body blow, House Democrats rejected the quickest fix to their health care dilemma Thursday and signaled that any agreement on President Barack Obama's signature issue will come slowly, if at all.

Democrats weighed a handful of difficult options as they continued to absorb the impact of the election of Scott Brown, a Republican, to the Massachusetts Senate seat long held by Edward M. Kennedy.

Several said Obama must forcefully help them find a way to avoid the humiliation of enacting no bill, and they urged him to do so quickly, to put the painful process behind them.

House leaders said they could not pass a Senate-approved bill, standing by itself, because of objections from liberals and moderates alike.

Such a move could have settled the matter, because it would not have required further Senate action. Brown's stunning victory restored the GOP's power to block bills with Senate filibusters.

Democratic leaders weighed two main options, both problematic. The first would require congressional Democrats to muscle their way past stiff GOP objections despite warning signs from Massachusetts voters and worries about November's elections.

The other would pare the original health care legislation in hopes of gaining some Republican support. But the compromise process is more difficult than many lawmakers suggest.

Democrats' hopes of settling on a strategy by the weekend seemed to fade, as lawmakers struggled to comprehend the drawbacks of every option.

"We have to get a bill passed," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., because her party would have no excuse for failing to revamp health care when it controls Congress and the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commiecare; healthcareobamacare; rats
From the Maha:

Rep. Paul Ryan: Dems Plan to Use Reconciliation

RUSH: From yesterday: "Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, tells NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE that House Democrats are planning to use the budget-reconciliation process in order to pass Obamacare. 'They’re meeting with each other this weekend to pursue it,' says Ryan. 'I’ve spoken with many Democrats and the message is this: They’re not ready to give up. They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment, and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny. They’ll look at every option and spend the next four or five days figuring it out.'

"If the Democrats pass a health-care bill through reconciliation, it means they would need only 51 votes in the Senate for final passage. To start the process, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) would need to bring a new health-care bill to the House Budget Committee with reconciliation instructions, with the Senate doing the same. 'They’d have to go back to the beginning of the process,' says Ryan. 'They’d need to affix reconciliation instructions to a new bill.' Doing so, he says, wouldn’t be too hard. 'There’s nothing we can do to stop this from a technical standpoint. ... If reconciliation happens, Ryan predicts that the Democrats will still have a hard time pulling it off. There are Blue Dog Democrats out there who are more survivalist than ideologues. One or two switches could be a game changer. The question is whether Democrats will continue to follow Pelosi off the cliff. After Massachusetts, the Democrats are quickly realizing that even if the president comes in to stump, and you get all the union support you need, it’s still not enough to get you elected.'"

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012210/content/01125104.guest.html

1 posted on 01/22/2010 3:02:19 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The people have rejected the health care deal they crafted in secret with big bribes..so they are meeting in secret to recraft the bribes and see how they can sneak it by.
This people are wizards of the lemming world.


2 posted on 01/22/2010 3:15:38 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Libloather
Quick, someone get a wooden stake...


3 posted on 01/22/2010 3:16:09 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Libloather
"Opaque, the new transparent."
4 posted on 01/22/2010 3:30:04 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Mass. elects Scott Brown. NVA:" for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my birth state")
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To: Libloather

The First Rule of Holes: When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Apparently, the socialists are emotionally incapable of applying this time-test principle.


5 posted on 01/22/2010 3:42:10 PM PST by sourcery (LepPrelosi: Vote for a cure...)
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To: Libloather
"We have to get a bill passed," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., because her party would have no excuse for failing to revamp health care when it controls Congress and the White House.

These people are going to destroy us...unless we destroy them.

And the time has come that we need to do exactly that.

6 posted on 01/22/2010 4:45:10 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Libloather

Hopefully I didn’t misunderstand, but tonight Mark Levin said that Andy Stern threatened the dems. Either they pass health care or his union members will campaign against them. Did anyone else hear anything about this?


7 posted on 01/22/2010 6:29:53 PM PST by NicNacPattyWac
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To: NicNacPattyWac

Here you go:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2435167/posts
Yep SEIU says pass it or no support in 2010. They seem to miss that if they pass it they will get no votes in 2010 from the electorate.


8 posted on 01/22/2010 7:57:44 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Thanks for the link!


9 posted on 01/22/2010 8:33:24 PM PST by NicNacPattyWac
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To: NicNacPattyWac
Hopefully I didn’t misunderstand, but tonight Mark Levin said that Andy Stern threatened the dems. Either they pass health care or his union members will campaign against them. Did anyone else hear anything about this?

I'm going to check out a few Flee Levin archived playbacks today.

10 posted on 01/23/2010 5:10:34 AM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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