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Rethinking Bush: Why Didn’t the President Fight Back Against the MSM?
BigJournalism.com ^ | Jan 20th 2010 | AliciaColon

Posted on 01/20/2010 5:15:01 PM PST by ColdOne

Who knew that George W. Bush had such powers over the natural world? According to some pundits, Hurricane Katrina was Bush’s fault, as was the tsunami in Indonesia and now – if you believe James Ridgeway in Mother Jones – that Bush’s policy is responsible for the devastating effects of the 7.5 earthquake that decimated the poor country of Haiti.

But during the eight years of George W. Bush’s presidency, we could depend on such ridiculous musings as Mr. Ridgeway displayed. I haven’t done enough research to determine if Bush was the most reviled president in our nation’s history – that might well have been Abraham Lincoln

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1 posted on 01/20/2010 5:15:03 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Same problem his father had. They felt it was below their dignity to get down in the trenches and fight. In one case it gave us Clinton and in the next case it gave us Obama.


2 posted on 01/20/2010 5:17:06 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: ColdOne
Why?

Because it wasn't a battle he could have won. The press holds all the cards in that game.

3 posted on 01/20/2010 5:17:34 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: ColdOne

There’s an old saying about not picking a fight with people why buy ink by the barrel.

Unfortunately I think the only effective way to fight back against the media is in journalism schools.


4 posted on 01/20/2010 5:19:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ColdOne

Imagine if Obama had to endure the same sort of hostile, mean-spirited coverage from the MSM that GWB was subject to during almost his entire time in office. Obama would have a nervous breakdown in under a week.


5 posted on 01/20/2010 5:19:31 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!!)
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To: ColdOne

I was against a lot of what Dubya did but I respected him as I do now....he’ll go down in history as a great president and mark my words, increasing numbers of people are realizing that he was a LEADER and a selfless one at that...compare him to the zero...


6 posted on 01/20/2010 5:20:37 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Yes.


7 posted on 01/20/2010 5:21:30 PM PST by Jedidah (Be bold, be sharp, be blunt -- but show a kind conservative heart. The world watches and takes note.)
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To: ColdOne

Why didn’t the GOP help defend him???


8 posted on 01/20/2010 5:22:52 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: cripplecreek
Pick a fight ? He was a pushover . New tone jive . Bush never struck back and allowed his supporters to carry his water . I will never again support anyone who will not stand up for themselves .
9 posted on 01/20/2010 5:24:07 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I don’t buy that argument at all. It’s like saying the 2009 Super Bowl loser gives you the 2010 Super Bowl winner.


10 posted on 01/20/2010 5:24:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ColdOne
It was frustrating that Bush couldn't effectively advocate for his policies and wouldn't defend himself. He still won't defend himself despite that fact that Obama and Clinton don't play by the Marquess of Queensbury rules he and his father play by.
11 posted on 01/20/2010 5:25:24 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ColdOne
If George W. Bush had spent a lot more time fighting slander, would he have gained any ground in that war?

The man spent his time trying to solve problems.

I did not agree with his domestic spending and expansion of government but he was right not to try to fight the endless slander.

12 posted on 01/20/2010 5:27:46 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Tyranny - are we there yet?)
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To: 1rudeboy

Both allowed the media to define their presidencies as failed presidencies without fighting back. Neither was a bad president. Parties with failed presidencies do not win elections.


13 posted on 01/20/2010 5:28:04 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Oberon

No, they don’t.

Where the press makes huge errors of fact, it is quite easy to take them apart.

Moreover, the fastest way to get under their skin it to make it personal. You go after the clown in the byline. You ridicule him or her for their ignorance. And when you start, you make sure you have in your possession several more instances of factual errors by the same author going back in time.

When people say “the press” - they make the contest lopsided right there. By saying “the press,” you make it “Bush vs. some institution.”

Now, make it “Bush vs. Larry the Lar, as written in the NYT” and suddenly it is something these clowns can understand.


14 posted on 01/20/2010 5:30:07 PM PST by NVDave
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To: ColdOne

And look as petty and thin-skinned as Obama does? It’s a not win battle.


15 posted on 01/20/2010 5:32:09 PM PST by Hildy (This Christmas, the Democrats have given America the one gift that keeps on taking.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Parties with failed presidencies do not win elections.

That's pretty much of a tautology.

16 posted on 01/20/2010 5:32:34 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ColdOne

I guess Dubya blew that third term...


17 posted on 01/20/2010 5:32:58 PM PST by hedgie
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To: ColdOne

Presidents usually only have one or two really good political advisers. Thing is, there really isn’t such a thing as a “generic” political adviser: political advisers tend to be specialists in discrete areas.

Reagan had Roger Ailes, who was a message and media guy.

Bush Sr. had Lee Atwater, who was message and tactics (imho Bush would have won against Clinton in 1992 if Atwater hadn’t died).

Clinton had a whole slew - Carville, Begala (both “informally” and Stephie in the first term, all message guys. For the second term he had Mike McCurry who as press secretary was a message guy. Then throw in a complete cutthroat like Harold Ickes ...

Dub’ya? Karl Rove, who came out of direct mail and was a numbers guy - an egghead. Karen Hughes was message, but she bolted early, then came back in a minimized role (DoS). Ari Fleischer was decent, but he left early too. Rove could crunch the numbers, but Bush simply didn’t have the deep messaging expertise with a moron like Scott McClellan. Dana Perino was pretty good, not great, could have held her own if she’d followed Fleischer. But she didn’t, and by the time she got the job the damage had been done and the situation was irrecoverable.

Obama? Axelrod. ‘nuff said.


18 posted on 01/20/2010 5:33:36 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: ColdOne

I often wondered why President Bush didn’t defend and command the national debate. The left had the public field to themselves and created many falsehoods that are now accepted as truth.


19 posted on 01/20/2010 5:34:12 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ColdOne

Why stop there?

Why didn’t he close down ACORN?

Why didn’t he jail Sandy Burglar, the man who stole secret papers

and many more that I cant remember


20 posted on 01/20/2010 5:36:41 PM PST by tennmountainman
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