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To: Matt Hatter

“…you resort to calling conservatives who may just happen to be pragmatists…”

I don’t believe that you, or several others on this thread, are either of those things.

“Your post (370 to Titus) regarding your 9 year old was telling. A child logically discerning an issue like abortion?”

It is really tiresome to discuss issues with people to whom the simplest propositions must be explained. Let me see if there’s a simpler way to explain it.

It was not the issue of abortion that my nine year old discerned; it was, *as*I*said*, the logical fallacy in the argument that he discerned. That is, even a nine year old can see that saving all of something is preferable to only saving part of it, where the object is to save as much of that something as possible.

The rest of your drivel was based on that same error, and so need not be discussed.

“Finally, you have spent several days defending a guy who cannot even garner attention.”

As another poster said, that says more about you and the rest of the electorate than it does about Keyes.

“All of your ‘Gramsci stuff’ and ‘assumption 1 applies’ means something only to you I suppose.”

If you had been posting on here for any significant length of time, you would have come across one of the many discussions of Gramsci. And if you didn’t get the references to the assumptions I outlined, you really should consider reading twice before speaking once.

“So he is a ‘true conservative’. If he can’t draw an audience or create any influence on the landscape, who gives a crap.”

People whose commitment to right and wrong is more than a quarter-inch deep.


474 posted on 01/24/2010 8:39:57 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

“Consider if this victory,is befitting of Thy King!”

Seems to be far too little of that.


475 posted on 01/24/2010 8:41:45 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

“If you had been posting on here for any significant length of time”

I have to chuckle. It seems that every forum I have read, somehow the oldest members of the forum feel like they are morally and intellectually superior. They come to the false assumption that a newer member is a new reader, or a new conservative. FR is one of many sites that I read for conservative thought, however, I do have a job and cannot read every thread.

You missed my point. It was more about your high minded language and self pride in your debate skills, and then resorting to calling those who happen to disagree with you ‘libtards’ (A term that I have never liked because of the use of ‘tard’—an attack on disabled people.)

I suppose I should preface my posts with my experience as a volunteer on two Reagan campaigns in my state. It was a fun time! What you believe about me is about as significant as a teat on a boar hog.


476 posted on 01/25/2010 5:39:12 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: dsc

We could continue to trade barbs, but that would just not be productive. I have read your posts with interest, and actually found some of your arguments to be quite good.

You have made a very cogent point that popularity doesn’t always equate to true conservative principles, and I will concede that to be true. History has shown many principled people who were not popular in their day.

There is just something about Keyes that disturbs me; it is not specifically his message, but it is about him personally. I know ‘having a feeling’ is not a proper way to enter an argument, but I suppose I will just have to leave it at that.

My apologies if I have been too harsh to you personally.


478 posted on 01/25/2010 6:33:12 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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