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To: neverdem
The Tea Party Movement, instead of reveling in its declared independence, should immediately either join forces with or take over the local Republican Party establishment in its respective county or state.

The author obviously doesn't understand the Tea Party movement or the anti-incumbent mood of the electorate. It will be up to the GOP to decide if it wants to "join" the Tea Party movement, which has no intention or desire of taking over the local Rep party or establishment. The Tea Party movement is a non-hierarchical confederation of many local grassroots groups. It has some basic principles and beliefs that the GOP must gravitate towards or face the prospect of an eventual third party movement. It is up to the GOP to tap into the movement, not the other way around.

5 posted on 01/19/2010 10:45:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
The author obviously doesn't understand the Tea Party movement or the anti-incumbent mood of the electorate.

To be merely anti-incumbent without understanding the issues and probable outcomes of ones choices is to be intellectually derelict because, for one, that viewpoint often enables the greatest of possible evils.

9 posted on 01/19/2010 10:51:22 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: kabar

I got the impression that the GOP didn’t really help Brown out that much. I’m sure Steele will be on T.V. taking credit tomorrow, though.


10 posted on 01/19/2010 10:57:15 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: kabar

Absolutely right. The GOP needs the tea partiers worse than the tea partiers need the GOP.

After all, the GOP left conservatives first and gave us window dressing losers. Well I’m tired of being on the losing side, or compromising way beyond my normal ideology so some party who panders to special interest can say they are for the little guy.

A little compromise is acceptable because nobody can be everything to everyone. But the GOP has sold us out one too many times for me to trust anyone they try to pass off on us as a candidate.


11 posted on 01/19/2010 10:58:50 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: kabar
re: “The author obviously doesn't understand the Tea Party movement or the anti-incumbent mood of the electorate. It will be up to the GOP to decide if it wants to “join” the Tea Party movement, which has no intention or desire of taking over the local Rep party or establishment.”

I disagree. The Tea Party movement got behind Scott Brown within the Republican Party because he espoused their views of smaller government, lower taxes, opposition to obamacare, etc. They, in effect, took control of the Republican Party on the grass roots level, in spite of the state republican leadership, and directed statewide support toward Brown's conservative view points.

This is what must happen in every state - Tea Party movement people, or just people who empathize with their views must simply “take over - get involved and get to work” within the republican party and direct it themselves. Scott Brown demonstrated how this can be done. The republican party is the most open to conservatism, but it must be directed by conservatives within the local precinct, district by district. Weed out the rinos - it can happen. We just saw this happen in Massachusetts.

12 posted on 01/19/2010 10:58:54 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: kabar
The author obviously doesn't understand the Tea Party movement or the anti-incumbent mood of the electorate. It will be up to the GOP to decide if it wants to "join" the Tea Party movement, which has no intention or desire of taking over the local Rep party or establishment. The Tea Party movement is a non-hierarchical confederation of many local grassroots groups. It has some basic principles and beliefs that the GOP must gravitate towards or face the prospect of an eventual third party movement. It is up to the GOP to tap into the movement, not the other way around.

In Power Push, Movement Sees Base in G.O.P. (Tea Party Movement)

HOLLAND, Pa. — The Tea Party movement ignited a year ago, fueled by anti-establishment anger. Now, Tea Party activists are trying to take over the establishment, ground up.

Across the country, they are signing up to be Republican precinct leaders, a position so low-level that it often remains vacant, but which comes with the ability to vote for the party executives who endorse candidates, approve platforms and decide where the party spends money.

A new group called the National Precinct Alliance says it has a coordinator in nearly every state to recruit Tea Party activists to fill the positions and has already swelled the number of like-minded members in Republican Party committees in Arizona and Nevada. Its mantra is this: take the precinct, take the state...

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Conservatives took the Republican retreat as a victory, but also saw the power of the party structure in deciding who the candidates will be. The rallying cry for more local involvement has been “No more NY-23’s.”

“We don’t want to see what happened in New York happen here,” Ms. Przybylski said.

The forum here drew nine candidates and a standing-room crowd in an auditorium built for 1,200. The questions organizers had drawn up for the candidates hinted at the issues important to so called Teapublicans.

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Each was asked to define the 10th Amendment, and to cite examples of where it “might have been violated.” “It’s my favorite amendment in the Constitution,” exclaimed one candidate, Ira Hoffman. “I can’t believe it!”

--snip-- Ms. Stefano, a stay-at-home mother and former television reporter, will have to get 10 signatures and put her name on the ballot to run. But the National Precinct Alliance estimates that about 60 percent of the roughly 150,000 local Republican committee seats are vacant and can be filled by essentially showing...

13 posted on 01/19/2010 11:02:40 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: kabar
The Tea Party movement is a non-hierarchical confederation of many local grassroots groups. It has some basic principles and beliefs that the GOP must gravitate towards or face the prospect of an eventual third party movement.

While I will agree that it's not in the best interest of the Tea-Parties to join RINOs on their terms, I disagree with the notion that somehow RINOS will ask the tea-parties to take over the Republican Party or change their governing philosophy to suit grass-roots Conservatives.

No third parties. A third party would take at least 20 years to build and we don't have the time. It would only fracture the Center-Right coalition and give us nothing but leftist government for the foreseeable future. It would play right into rat hands. That is why those trolls who constantly say that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats must be repudiated and marginalized. A 3rd Party would destroy any kind of coalition we could create to save our nation. We don't have the luxury of time right now against the Cloward-Piven Alinksy-ites.

What Grass-Roots Conservatives need to do is forcibly take over the Republican Party, as the author suggested, and then pull the moderates into our tent. This is the only coalition that can win and give us a government that is tolerable, at least more so than the OBAMA-nation that we have now. If our tea-parties translate into populist vote for Conservatives in Primaries, this is good, but in any event, our tea-parties have to take it to the next organizational level and that means getting pushy with our influence in the Republican Party.
48 posted on 01/20/2010 1:00:17 AM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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