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To: TigersEye

You are right. The Buddha being accepted as an avatar of Vishnu was a clever ploy to both undermine Buddhism and to incorporate him and his beliefs within the Hindu pantheon and thereby stem the flow out of Hinduism. The same thing was done to Jainism almost making it a sub sect within Hinduism by appropriating and incorporating its beliefs.

A clarification of my earlier post. I said “Hinduism in the 6th century” when I should have said “Post the 6th Century”. This was clearly because of the influence of Buddhism and Jainism which were among the 64 major sects active in the 6th century B.C.in India.


73 posted on 01/16/2010 10:30:08 AM PST by cold start
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To: cold start; TigersEye

Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita explicitly declares the monotheistic nature of what Hindus refers to as “Bhagwan”. That said, I agree that Hinduism isn’t really a religion.

ARJUNA:

LORD! of the men who serve Thee—true in heart—
As God revealed; and of the men who serve,
Worshipping Thee Unrevealed, Unbodied, far,
Which take the better way of faith and life?

KRISHNA:

Whoever serve Me—as I show Myself—
Constantly true, in full devotion fixed,
These hold I very holy. But who serve—
Worshipping Me The One, The Invisible,
The Unrevealed, Unnamed, Unthinkable,
Uttermost, All-pervading, Highest, Sure—
Who thus adore Me, mastering their sense,
Of one set mind to all, glad in all good,
These blessed souls come unto Me.

Yet, hard
The travail is for whoso bend their minds
To reach th’ Unmanifest. That viewless path
Shall scarce be trod by man bearing his flesh!
But whereso any doeth all his deeds,
Renouncing self in Me, full of Me, fixed
To serve only the Highest, night and day
Musing on Me—him will I swiftly lift
Forth from life’s ocean of distress and death
Whose soul clings fast to Me. Cling thou to Me!
Clasp Me with heart and mind! so shalt thou dwell
Surely with Me on high. But if thy thought
Droops from such height; if thou be’st weak to set
Body and soul upon Me constantly,
Despair not! give Me lower service! seek
To read Me, worshipping with steadfast will;
And, if thou canst not worship steadfastly,
Work for Me, toil in works pleasing to Me!
For he that laboreth right for love of Me
Shall finally attain! But, if in this
Thy faint heart fails, bring Me thy failure! find
Refuge in Me! let fruits of labor go,
Renouncing all for Me, with lowliest heart,
So shalt thou come; for, though to know is more
Than diligence, yet worship better is
Than knowing, and renouncing better still
Near to renunciation—very near—
Dwelleth Eternal Peace!

Who hateth nought
Of all which lives, living himself benign,
Compassionate, from arrogance exempt,
Exempt from love of self, unchangeable
By good or ill; patient, contented, firm
In faith, mastering himself, true to his word,
Seeking Me, heart and soul; vowed unto Me,—
That man I love! Who troubleth not his kind,
And is not troubled by them; clear of wrath,
Living too high for gladness, grief, or fear,
That man I love! Who, dwelling quiet-eyed, 1

Stainless, serene, well-balanced, unperplexed,
Working with Me, yet from all works detached,
That man I love! Who, fixed in faith on Me,
Dotes upon none, scorns none; rejoices not,
And grieves not, letting good and evil hap
Light when it will, and when it will depart,
That man I love! Who, unto friend and foe
Keeping an equal heart, with equal mind
Bears shame and glory, with an equal peace
Takes heat and cold, pleasure and pain; abides
Quit of desires, hears praise or calumny
In passionless restraint, unmoved by each,
Linked by no ties to earth, steadfast in Me,
That man I love! But most of all I love
Those happy ones to whom ’tis life to live
In single fervid faith and love unseeing,
Eating the blessèd Amrit of my Being!

- Bhagavad-Gita, Ch. XII

http://www.bartleby.com/45/4/12.html


74 posted on 01/16/2010 10:40:59 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: cold start

That is very interesting. Sincerely. With that clarification of your meaning your post really comes through now. Thank you for that brief history lesson.


75 posted on 01/16/2010 10:46:53 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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