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To: napscoordinator
It is absolutely stunning how FREEPERS are trading principles over a win.

Blah blah blah, nobody is doing any such thing. The problem here is not that Brown is a RINO, but that you are simply too dumb to think for yourself, choosing rather to let David Frum manipulate you.

44 posted on 01/15/2010 10:10:08 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Obama is proof that you can send a fool to college, but you can't make him think.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Not you again. I don’t need David Frum to manipulate me to know a RINO is a RINO when he NOT fully pro-life.


52 posted on 01/15/2010 10:14:28 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Blah blah blah, nobody is doing any such thing. The problem here is not that Brown is a RINO, but that you are simply too dumb to think for yourself, choosing rather to let David Frum manipulate you.

No, see you don't understand. For these jihadist "conservatives" a RINO is anyone who does not hold 100% to the exact position they personally hold on every single issue.

Just try to get rabscuttle and the other jihadists here to define what ARE the conservative positions on issues and you'll get silence; apparently only they can discern a RINO when they see one... The rest of us should just sit back and accede to the visions of these sees.

64 posted on 01/15/2010 10:19:10 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; rabscuttle385

There is a two-level problem here. First, I will assume that both Titus and rabscuttle385 are genuinely motivated by principle: practicality vs. purity, respectively.

As to purity, is is true that many, MANY, FReepers have inveighed against RINOs in the GOP, and pledged to abstain rather than support them. As for practicality, it should be obvious that a minority can do next to nothing to stop things with which we disagree.

The two levels, then, are strategy and tactics, or long-term vs. short-term goals. Of course we want in the long run to vote only for Conservatives. It is in light of this, and not abstractly, that we should judge the contest in front of us today. Will the present vote (not a theoretical, pie-in-the-sky vote) get us to a more conservative tomorrow? Sometimes, the answer may indeed lead to some RINOs losing to Dems (as should have happened to Arlen Specter, and did happen to Dede Scozzafava).

Conclusion: Practicality gets a bad rap, but losers never prosper. A hold-your-nose vote against Coakley is still a vote for America.


134 posted on 01/15/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Long ago when men cursed and beat the ground with sticks, it was witchcraft. Today, it's golf.)
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