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To: SatinDoll
Good writing SatinDoll. Exploring the common law around citizenship has been a trip through history. Hamilton and Waite both recognized Vattel’s Law of Nations as part of U.S. common law. From a chapter on the role of Vattel’s Law of Nations in Grotian Society Papers 1972, points out that Law of Nations was by far - a factor of 4 - the most cited legal dictionary in the U.S. between 1789 and 1820.

Gabriel Chin's recent paper on McCain's eligibility explores and supports the reasons that McCain is not a natural born citizen. Even the Canal Zone in 1936 was a unique place for not having applicable sovereignty statutes. A law was passed in 1937, but being natural born can not be retroactive.

Now our Republican ‘leadership’ is promoting both Romney and Jindal, neither of whom is a natural born citizen. That could insure that the validity of laws, appointments, treaties, signed by the ineligible Obama will not be challenged by Republican legislators.

5 posted on 01/15/2010 2:13:37 AM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
both Romney and Jindal, neither of whom is a natural born citizen

I knew about Jindal, but I was not aware of Romney. As I recall, his father was born in Mexico to missionary parents (from England?),but I assumed that he became a US citizen before raising a family. Can you lead me to a source on this matter. This is huge. Great point! Note tagline.

8 posted on 01/15/2010 5:19:41 AM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2010)
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To: Spaulding
Gabriel Chin's recent paper on McCain's eligibility explores and supports the reasons that McCain is not a natural born citizen. Even the Canal Zone in 1936 was a unique place for not having applicable sovereignty statutes

If you actually read the Law of Nations, you'll see that McCain meets one of the exceptions to the "born in the country" rule for NBC. He was born "in the armies of the state" See Law of Nations, Vol I. Section 217. The same exception applies to the children of diplomats.

If we are going to accept he Law of Nations definition for NBC, which is in section 212, we should also accept the exception in section 217. Under that, his father could have been an exchange instructor at the Chinese Naval Academy and he could have been born in Mamei in Fujian (Fukien) Province, RoC, and he'd still be a natural born citizen, given also that his parents were both citizens.

27 posted on 01/25/2010 3:00:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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