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To: jamese777
Natural Born Citizenship status in the US is governed by Section One of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution and only by Section One the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

The 14th amendment was not passed until the late 1860s. The Natural Born citizen clause was included in the original Constitution passed in 1787. The former can hardly govern the latter. Oh it could if it said "All persons born in the US are Natural Born Citizens" or something similar. It says only that they are citizens. The 14th thus did not change the definition of natural born citizen, which remains what it was in 1787.

201 posted on 01/16/2010 9:51:53 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Before any amendment to the Constitution is ratified, the law of the land operates in a different way but the amendments then alter the original document. For example, the Founding Fathers did not believe in direct popular election of Senators but the 17th Amendment changed that.
The 14th Amendment changed the rules on citizenship to two categories ONLY: born citizens and naturalized citizens for every American including those who might be elected President.


202 posted on 01/16/2010 11:34:45 PM PST by jamese777
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To: El Gato

The 14th amendment was not passed until the late 1860s. The Natural Born citizen clause was included in the original Constitution passed in 1787. The former can hardly govern the latter. Oh it could if it said “All persons born in the US are Natural Born Citizens” or something similar. It says only that they are citizens. The 14th thus did not change the definition of natural born citizen, which remains what it was in 1787.


In 2009, in the case of Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, the Indiana Court of Appeals ruled that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen under the requirements of Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the Constitution. The Court referenced the 14th Amendment, Minor v Happersett and US v Wong Kim Ark as precedents for their ruling (among other precedent setting cases).
The “Natural Born Citizen” section (B) of the Court’s decision can be read here:
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/ankeny-v-gov-of-indiana-natural-born-defined-born-on-us-soil-regardless-of-citizenship-parents/#more-7312


204 posted on 01/17/2010 10:30:50 AM PST by jamese777
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