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Why Haiti keeps getting hammered by disasters
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, January 24, 2010 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 01/14/2010 9:51:26 AM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9
Didn't see anybody else do this, so I will:

When it comes to natural disasters, Haiti seems to have a bull's-eye on it. That's because of a killer combination of geography, poverty, social problems, slipshod building standards and bad luck...

What was NOT mentioned was Haiti's history of COMMUNISTS and DICTATORS controlling the country, and taking tons of US aid to build the palacial mansion bigger than the White House.

101 posted on 01/15/2010 10:30:21 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (No more RINOS; I will vote my conscience, even if I have to write "Sarah Palin" on the ballot!)
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To: Sherman Logan
You want to know a little bit more about what you are talking about before you do a Google search and then cut and paste directly from Wikipedia. While it is true that most or all of these countries made Catholicism the official "State Religion" in their Constitutions, they did so (for the most part) when every single white man living there was Catholic. All of them have subsequently ammended those Constitutions to guarantee 100% freedom of religion. Keep researching, and you will see that for yourself. Tiny Lichtenstein's Constitution was re-written in 2003, replacing the one from 1921. Do you think John Paul II let them make Catholicism the state Religion, or perhaps the goofball who wrote the Wikipedia article got it wrong?

None of these counries have an "Official State Religion" any more that Anglicanism is the "Official State Religion" of all the countries in the British Commonwealth.

102 posted on 01/15/2010 12:48:09 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

It is entirely possible for a country to have an “Official State Religion” and still have freedom of religious expression.

For instance, the Church of England is established. The Queen is its head and Defender of the Faith. Yet Catholics aren’t being executed for practicing their religion at the moment.

I believe the majority of states had established religions when the US was founded. It doesn’t mean other religions were not free to practice.


103 posted on 01/15/2010 1:13:43 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan

You are missing the point:

A “state religion” is about as significant as a “state bird” after the constitution has been ammended to guarantee freedom of religion. When the “state religion status” was written into the consitution, it meant something very different. Now, it typically signifies that an overwhelming percentage of the population practices one religion. Compare that to what goes on in places like Iran. Yes, the US was somewhat unique in stating specifically that we would never have a state religion. Regargless, there are no countries other than the Holy See and perhaps Monaco (I didn’t bother to check because its a monarchy and its irrelevant) where Catholicism is still the official state religion in practice.


104 posted on 01/15/2010 1:28:22 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Darnright

I’m not.I’m just stating that there are those who are ignorant enough to think that Pat Robertson represents all Christians,even though he does not.Al Sharpton isn’t the representative of all blacks,either. He seems to stir up more trouble for the blacks,as does Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson. Another anology is that Bernie Madoff does not represent all Jews,though there are those who think so.


105 posted on 01/15/2010 1:49:31 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: presidio9

You seem to believe a “state religion” or “official religion” by definition means persecution or illegality of all other religions.

I disagree. It means there is an established religion, that a particular religion is supported and recognized by the state, but does not necessarily mean other religions are persecuted.

In any case, there are a great many countries where practices that Americans would view as a violation of the “separation of church and state” are commonplace.


106 posted on 01/15/2010 2:33:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan
This conversation is tiresome, because you are ignoring the context of the original question: "Isn't Hati still officially a Roman Catholic country?" Given Hati's history with Voo-Doo, and given the profile that the questioner had provided for himself, I could have interpreted this question any number of ways (the question was not a follow-up to any other post). I chose to answer the question neutrally. Your literal answer to the question would have been that Hati does not, in fact have an official state religion. I said that there are no more countries where Roman Catholicism is the "Official State Religion" any more than Anglicanism is still the "Official State Religion" of England. You are correct that England and a handful of countries with overwhelming Catholic majorities have chosen to ammend their constitutions, rather than remove the original wording. And, in every case, the original wording WAS delibrately suppressive. After the ammendments, the wording was and is as symbolic as the state bird. I agree that Americans might view some of the practices in these places (such as funding schools) that "Americans would view as a violation of the “separation of church and state,” but they would be wrong, because that's not even the way our own Constitution spells it out. Back then, ALL schools were religious schools by today's standards. Argentina has a larger Jewish minority than we have here. I doubt very much that they would put up with it today.

In case you were wondering, while Hati does not have an "Official State Religion," it does have an official state bird: The Hispaniolan Trogon. Males grow to about 12," females have less elaborate plumage. It feeds maily on insects, but also small lizards and fruits. It's favorite nesting place is the abandoned nest of an Hispaniolan Woodpecker. I sure hope these little guys are doing ok right now. At least they have freedom of religion.

107 posted on 01/15/2010 5:31:43 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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