[Vigilanteman]

Not long ago we posted the list of presidents and their colleges on one of these threads and concluded that every Ivy League graduate was a poor president, with two possible exceptions-- John Adams and James Madison.

One Freeper even put forth a reasonable argument that these two were among the poorer presidents and certainly the worst of their era.

I also find Hanson's following statement amusing: cf. the con of mostly white candidates claiming some sort of Native American ancestry . . .

The actual probability of a white person being able to claim some Native American ancestry is quite high if they can trace their ancestry in this country back to the 18th century. It becomes even higher (close to 75%) if they can trace it back to the 17th century. The reason is simple math-- the number of direct ancestors doubles every generation and the pool of available people shrinks.

Yeah, I know, we're talking 1/32nd or, in the more common cases, 1/64th or even 1/128th (or less) Native American blood. But it is based on facts, however small. And it is a trend likely to continue as long as special rights are conferred on certain minorities.

[CholeraJoe]

Unfortunately my maxim about Service Academy graduates doesn’t hold true for presidents. Carter and Grant were graduates of Annapolis and West Point respectively. Grant was a brilliant general but a poor president.