Posted on 01/13/2010 5:46:37 PM PST by FromLori
Maybe the French have something to do with it....
There may be some truth to this. It appears those who practice voodoo and withcraft bring the curses they sent out down on their own heads. It’s terrible that the innocent must suffer right along with the guilty.
monkey crack or goofballs?
This is why the “right” gets a bad name ... I’m a Christian, but this is a STUPID and NOT NECESSARY COMMENT! What a jerk.
Lots of people died and the first thing he does is preach.
Well maybe the second. I certainly hope that he is concerned and wishes the people the best.
These same ‘Christians’ will say the same thing to a
fellow Christian whose father or son dies— if they think
he wasn’t right with the Lord.
They hurt people and Christian work horribly with these
kind of statements.
No one knows really why God allows certain things to happen, nor does anyone know why Pat was born in America,
while others his age were born in Haiti to those parents
who he says made a pack with the devil.
This attitude of superiority is really disgusting to me,
they should practice some humbleness and meakness, but I
doubt they would apply that themselves, only others—such
is their work.
Christians are to judge justly (St. John 7.24), with a measure of judgement that they would apply to themselves (St. Matthew 7.1-2). A Christian man indwelled by the holy Ghost can judge all things (1 Corinthians 2.15).
"In any way that men love me in that same way they find my love: for many are the paths of men, but they all in the end come to me." (Bhagavad-Gita 4:11)
I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. (John 10:16)
"...once we accept religion, then we must follow it very sincerely, very genuinely. Through that way, the different religious traditions can promote, can achieve harmony." (His Holiness the Dalai Lama, July 2, 2000)
(Just sayin'...)
Video http://www.breitbart.tv/they-have-been-cursed-pat-robertson-says-haiti-swore-a-pact-to-the-devil/ Of note - August 14th 1791
The Bois-Caiman Ceremony was held by Boukman in Haiti
Dutty Boukman held a Vodou ceremony in Bois-Caïman, where hundreds of slaves vowed to die for liberty.
Dutty Boukman was a houngan, or vodoun priest whose death was considered a catalyst to the slave uprising that marked the beginning of the Haïtian Revolution.
Boukman prophesied in the Bois Caiman Ceremony that the slaves Jean François, Biassou, and Jeannot would be leaders of a slave revolt that would free the slaves of Saint-Domingue.
Haitians honored Boukman by admitting him into the pantheon of loa (Vodou spirits).
http://www.haititimeline.com/n21/bois-caiman-ceremony-held-boukman-haiti.html
According to history books, Papa Doc and Baby Doc both made a pact with the devil. Well, not exactly the devil himself but, rather, a wildebeest- albeit an evil wildebeest .
Well, the occult is strong there. Remember when Bubba went there before the 98 election and there was a ceremony to insure his re-election? Thing is this activity according to the Word is going to be more and more. What does that tell us?
Wasn’t Haiti active in slave trade way back when?
I know it has been a drug stop-off point of between South
Amecica and the US and elsewhere.
That a majority of the nation is now Catholic and reformed, altho abused by its leaders as usual, doesn’t erase Mother Earth’s tectonic memory.
This quake was likely due to slip fault action is the latest I saw in the news. 30 4.5 aftershocks so far.
karma? ya never know.
location may be a more likely reason, but..
Add to all this, it’s in the mid 80s to boot.
You disgust me.
well now, my day is never complete until i disgust someone.......time for bed........good night folks, and God bless :)
So does San Francisco...God help Cali!
You mean it was not PC?
I hadn’t heard the bit about any pact, so I went hunting. I don’t know much about Haiti, and wondered where Robertson got the information.
“God, Satan, and the Birth of Haiti” October, 2005
Part One Jean R. Gelin, Ph.D.
http://www.blackandchristian.com/articles/academy/gelin-10-05.shtml
“Have you ever heard how some preachers or theologians try to explain the unspeakable misery that is crippling most of Haiti’s population of 8 million? Everywhere you go, from your television screen to the Internet, what you are most likely to find is a reference to a spiritual pact that the fathers of the nation supposedly made with the devil to help them win their freedom from France. As a result of that satanic alliance, as they put it, God has placed a curse on the country some time around its birth, and that divine burden has made it virtually impossible for the vast majority of Haitians to live in peace and prosperity in their land. Surprising, right?
The satanic pact allegedly took place at Bois-Caïman near Cap-Haïtien on August 14, 1791 during a meeting organized by several slave leaders, under [Dutty] Boukman’s leadership, before launching what would become Haiti’s Independence War. This brutal period lasted 13 years until the last survivors of the French expeditionary forces, dispatched to Saint-Domingue with the sole purpose to re-establish slavery, were allowed by Dessalines to leave the island and return to Napoleon. Those who made it safely to France wrote and reported about the utmost bravery and supreme courage of Haiti’s indigenous army.
Obviously, the idea that Haiti was dedicated to Satan prior to its independence is a very serious and profound statement with potentially grave consequences for its people in terms of how they are perceived by others or how the whole nation is understood outside its borders. One would agree that such a strong affirmation should be based on solid historical and scriptural ground. But, although the satanic pact idea is by far the most popular explanation for Haiti’s birth as a free nation, especially among Christian missionaries and some Haitian Church leaders, it is nothing more than a fantasist opinion that ultimately dissipates upon close examination.”
CEREMONY BWA KAYIMAN, PART 1
Marguerite Laurent
“But the Africans who became Haitians in the land of the Taino/Arawak Amerindians had to pull hard for the psychic energy within themselves that would allow them to kill the current of negative European energies swallowing them whole.
And when these Blacks, on a hilltop at a wood clearing called “Bwa Kayiman,” had reached back, past their divisions, past even the God making impulses that creates dictators. Way back. Past self-gratification. Past giving any one particular element - spirit or thought abstraction - omniscient sovereignty; way past these twilights and a thousand eternities. Then this, this spiritual consensus, this, a new psychic wave, was reached. The differing African groups in Haiti were then so quickened, that together as one PSYCHIC FORCE, they had passed Babylon’s babbling towers, setting a new watercourse beyond forever: transmuting mental spasms and a cacophony of noises into ONE TONGUE, one powerful action - swearing to God and the Devil to be free or die.”
http://www.margueritelaurent.com/writings/bwakayiman.html
There’s a whole lot of traffic on this idea, actually:
“a1063: Haiti and the Pact with Satan - Another View (fwd)”
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti-archive/msg10954.html
You sound like a liberal the way you distorted what I said. Send all your money to Haiti to help. Obama will take the rest anyway. Pathetic.
LOL!
Robertson is a jerk for saying what he did. Even if it's somehow true, he would have no way of knowing and it's not his place to proclaim.
However, who can deny that what you posted is either objectively correct, or one heck of an extremely highy improbable coincidence.
The highest concentration of voodoo gets the worst breaks on the planet. Funny.
Like tectonic plates had nothing to do with it...
And I’m sure the poorest people on the planet need to suffer even more horrifically to satisfy Pat’s definition of moral justice...
Pat can go screw himself.
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