LOL! Ok that's funny! You're not going to change the name, there will be no "conservative party" that stands a chance to win diddly! We have to fight to kick moderate/rino's out and give conservatives power.
We go the route you're talking conservatism will be dead in 5 years! The two party system encompasses the whole realm, that's why it essentially works. I want moderates and rino's to realize conservatism is right the way to go. However, I'll be the first one to kick their asses out the door if they try to turn this party.
I want to fight the enemy within, you want to start a new army! Two different philosophies.
You want to fight a losing battle. As I quoted from a source much smarter than both of us, you don't put new wine into an old wineskin. You don't sew new cloth into an old garment.
Sometimes the wisest thing to do is to cut your loses and run. In sales we are taught to not advertise for the competition. In scripture we are taught to cut off the enemy and to not give it the satisfaction of even thinking is has any power.
I realize that simple principles are lost on the more sophisticated among you but there is one fact that seems to be lost on you. Conservatism cannot be killed. It's a way of life and trying to scare real Conservatives into beating that dead horse called the "Republican Party" is pure foolishness. REAL Conservatives aren't buying it. Your philosophy is like buying some old dilapidated, run down old restaurant, condemned by the city for health code violations and thinking that you're going to get people that had previously gotten sick in that establishment to come back into that building simply because you say, "Under New Management." BS! I don't care how much RINOS whine and snivel about the exodus from the Republican party by us Conservatives, we aren't going to go back simply because they say they aren't RINOS anymore. For decades now we have been lied to by the likes of Newt, Rudy, George Bush Sr. and Jr., McCain, Steele, etc. One friggin bold faced liar after another. Each professing to be a "Reagan Conservative" (like Sean does I might add) until they are elected. I even heard someone last night trying to compare Obama to Reagan. Can you friggin believe it?
I'm tired of casting my vote for the lesser of two evils and in the case of the last election I voted for a "vice" presidential candidate because she was the only Conservative on the ticket.
NO MORE! I will vote for Sherlock Holmes before I vote for another RINO and I don't care what party he/she's in.
We need a "Conservative Party" PERIOD!
Why are you "moderates" so afraid of a name change? You're afraid because you know you can't win anything without the Conservatives. What Conservatives are starting to learn is that we have a lot more power than you big tenters want us to know we have.
Changing the name or starting a new party isn't as big a deal as you all would like for us to believe it is. It's happened before. Do you honestly believe the Republican Party and Demoncrap party has always been? They haven't you know?! They had to start somewhere.
Conservatives need to leave whatever party they are a part of, pull together and start a new party from scratch. Do whatever it takes to make it foundationally sound and make it a true Conservative party. A party that is unwavering in it's tenets and that will expel any boneheaded member that does not wish to abide by those tenets. We need to write a charter that is etched in stone. One that does not change with every wind of doctrine. One that does not "evolve." One that holds to the basic principles the founding fathers were led to pen and to remain true to those principles no matter what.
I know that I for one am tired of all the gray areas. Myself and every other "Conservative" I know like the safety found in absolutes. If you can't believe in absolutes you are NOT a "Conservative."
MHO