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To: AnAmericanMother
The next day, Arthur Seyss-Inquart, the commandant of the Nazi occupation, ordered that all Catholics of Jewish origin in the Netherlands be deported immediately.

Ha I DO remember this, not the names however. My own family Hx as you can read is full of surprises. Just FYI I was confirmed and went to Old Mission San Juan Capistrano. Today in America I think to speak out may involve some nasty abuse as we're seeing but minor comparatively to the ovens, chambers and ditches of that time. We need to band together regardless of doctrinal differences( we ALL love Jesus do we not?)to beat back this socialist/communist push that will only creat more of a tyranny and where there's outright tyranny blood flows.

On a funny note, I remember being at church in the Old Mission, and the latin mass was droning on, then the incense burners come down the aisle. I whispered to my grandma and told her I needed to leave( asthma). I also misinterpreted her words as I THOUGHT she'd told me the priests were burning insects. It was years I finally learned people used to laugh at my misinterpretation of incense. To this day I tell people they burn insects in their incense. Eh, well, live and learn.

On a latter note, I was born after 1945 but it still amazes me the madness and fear that my very near relatives suffered or died. Some Jewish family were killed at Belgen-Bersen, one at Buchenwald. Others are just gone. I suppose I'd have to spend thousands on genealogy records and go back to Germany( I don't speak German well) and the Hassidic portion of Belarus and Ukraine but some of those pogroms were well before Hitlers time.

I think what gets me is though the last pope did apologize to the Jewish folks there's still a portion of Catholics that tend to believe allah and G!D are one and the same. I only wish there was some way to bring all people together and to define fully who allah is and who the God of the Bible is but that's not even a Catholic/Jewish problem as so many breakaway protestnt Christian churches believe in the "replacement theology" which is very disturbing indeed, but that's another subject altogether. Thanks again.

69 posted on 01/13/2010 12:32:27 PM PST by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: Karliner
WWII is receding into the distance, but those of us who are old enough to remember are still pretty horrified. My parents' next door neighbor had the number tattooed on his forearm -- he and his brother were the only members of their large extended family to survive the Holocaust. He's in his late 80s now, my dad is 85 -- that generation is passing away, but my generation heard the stories first hand. Preserve that recollection for your kids and grandkids, it's important!

If you want to run some genealogy, check the websites of the LDS and also some sites like WebGen - there are a bunch out there, many free, some subscription. You needn't leave the comfort of your computer chair to find out an awful lot -- immigration records, shipping lists, all that stuff. My family's been here for ages, mostly - the latest group of immigrants was in the 1860s - so all the European stuff I need is really, really old, but it's surprising how much is there, online. I found my gggg grandfather's baptismal record in London, in 1795!

I agree that all Christians need to stick together. I think it's kind of like family. We may disagree among ourselves, even to the point of shouting (if you're in an Italian or Irish family, that's called "normal conversation"), but if anybody attacks from outside, everybody closes ranks.

And I would include believing, practicing Jews in the family. I find that I have a lot more in common with Orthodox or Conservative Jews who actually practice their faith, than with folks who call themselves Catholic but don't follow the teachings of the Church.

And the far left's goal is "divide and conquer" -- you can't see Obama's Notre Dame appearance or his appointments of pro-abort "Catholics" to important positions as anything but an attempt to get the Catholics quarreling amongst themselves, and install if he can a Vichy rump of Catholics-in-name-only to pretend to represent "the Church". I think though that the bishops have finally caught on, that Obama has been using them in a most cynical way.

I will support a candidate 100% if they are pro life and working against socialism, creeping or otherwise. But I will not support a pro death, socialist candidate who's calling him or herself a Catholic.

70 posted on 01/13/2010 1:56:27 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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