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To: sitetest

Thanks for the incisive review! I appreciate the time it took you to do that. Your points are valid. However, you missed the one underlying point of my posts, albeit unstated. No one Catholic is better than another one. None of us are in a position to judge another. I take offense when my Catholic-ness is called into question, and I LOATHE when Catholics fight amongst themselves. Oh, yeah, and I hate being talked down to! LOL, who doesn’t?

(Also, some of my sparkyness today may be a result of a highly insulting email that someone sent me, as a result of this thread. The only reason to send such an email is because the sender knows the mods wouldn’t let it stand. So, yeah, I think I’m a little defensive...however, I am trying to maintain my manners. And I hate Catholics eating their own!)

Again, thanks for the review! Great job (meant very sincerely)


67 posted on 01/13/2010 10:16:34 AM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: blu
Dear blu,

“No one Catholic is better than another one.”

I don't know about that. I know LOTS AND LOTS of Catholics who are way better than me. We could start with my wife...

“None of us are in a position to judge another.”

My view of that statement is that none of us can see into the heart of another. No one knows the inmost motivations of a soul, no one knows the final destiny of a soul. We don't even know that of ourselves. Only God's judgment matters.

But we can look at the outward behavior of others and judge its catholicity. And colloquially, it isn't unfair to then say, “That's no Catholic!”

After all, in this thread, we have stated the fact that Hitler was baptized a Catholic, and it was just terrible that he was never excommunicated [which isn't actually a true statement]! What is formal, explicit excommunication if not a statement by the Church that for all appearances, you're not a good Catholic?

Does anyone want to actually defend that Hitler was a good Catholic?

After all, you said NO Catholic is better than another. I know lots of Catholics who are better than me, but I think that perhaps I'm better than Hitler was.

“I take offense when my Catholic-ness is called into question, and I LOATHE when Catholics fight amongst themselves.”

I understand, and I'm not keen on Catholics fighting one another, either. But what do you do with someone like Nancy Pelosi (or Arnold Schwarzenegger, or Barbara Mikulski, etc., etc.) who claim personally to be Catholics, often even devout Catholics, and yet who nonetheless enable great evil and flout binding Catholic teaching?

It seems to me that it's very reasonably to say, colloquially, she's an execrable Catholic.

“Oh, yeah, and I hate being talked down to! LOL, who doesn’t?”

Tell me about it. I especially hate it when after one has been condescended to, and one offers protest, one is then made out to be the perpetrator of the crime. “You're not masochistic enough!! Go back and try harder, you lowly worm!!”

“Also, some of my sparkyness today...”

I got an e-mail sort of like that this morning, too. Didn't do much for my mood.

But running into you has brightened it.

Thanks,


sitetest

68 posted on 01/13/2010 10:31:59 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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