[familyop]

"In America the use of credit, flashy cars and sales jobs like stock brokers and real estate agents are social status."

But in the USA, a person has to have at least a bachelor's degree in women's studies, or something like that, and parents working for free traitors or government, to enjoy such high society pursuits. How could such loyal leaders maintain slavery, if many men in the USA were allowed to have fathers and go for engineering educations? ...and without lots of social programs and anti-small-business zoning regulations to misinform and break families, and stop them from producing? Those families would otherwise be potential domestic competition, you know.

Oh, well. The defaults on the high costs of all of that will come anyway, and so will the chance for a new leadership.

[sickoflibs]

In China the two parent family is promoted. So is savings. It doesnt have our freedoms naturally, but it is avoiding our insanity and breakdown.

Chinese are much more conservative than Americans, yes, than Republicans!