-----
"Star Traveler: The problem with that -- as it pertains to the State of Hawaii and to that department -- is that they are the only ones who make up certified copies of a person's birth certificate (in that state).
Garbage In Garbage Out. It's very likely the problem with Obama's birth certificate. Explained and repeated below.
Star Traveler So, if you're saying that the only agency who can actually prove where Obama is born -- has information that cannot be trusted -- then you're basically saying that there is no way you'll ever know (no matter what) where Obama was born -- because there is no other place to get a certified copy of the birth certificate... LOL...
You've got a real problem there, I would say... :-)
What I said in my prior post is clear, but you like to distort what I said. For the millionth time, Obama could show some honesty and authorize Hawaii to release his BC for the public to see. Carefully parsed and measured statements from Hawaii are not good enough.
Here is what was said in its entirety that you distorted:
-----
"Star Traveler : And since it's the State of Hawaii who produces any certified birth certificate for someone who requests it there -- that means that they do know what they're talking about (I mean, they keep, maintained and certify the birthplace...).
That's all I have to know...
She does not understand the concept of Garbage In you get Garbage Out or GIGO for short. An old computer programming term about if the data being processed or inputted is bad the output will also be garbage.
I told her a DoH bureaucrat from Hawaii is not an impartial person to decide about Obama's birth records as legit in this case because they may have motives to hide flaws about their system.
As an example, as you know, Hawaii accepted statements from any person who said they witnessed the birth of a baby in Hawaii. A big red flag that calls out for abuse. If that's the case with Obama, it would blow him out of the water. So Hawaii is likely taking what their records say about Obama at face value even if they have suspicions now it's bogus information - they won't mention any concerns publicly and they'll state the opposite.
Other ignorance on display is lack of simple logical inference from them. If Obama was born in a Hawaiian hospital, there is no reason for Obama not to authorize Hawaii to release his long form birth certificate to the public. The After-Birthers will do anything not to acknowledge this. It's absurdity on display." "
You were saying ...
Garbage In Garbage Out. It's very likely the problem with Obama's birth certificate. Explained and repeated below.
[ ... ]
Here is what was said in its entirety that you distorted:
No distortion here... I'm simply stating what the reality of the situation is. First you have this "reality". This is what the State of Hawaii said...
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
Given that reality, from the statement from the State of Hawaii, and from the very person in the department in that state that takes care of those records and who also creates the "certified copy" for the relevant people who ask for it (or when a court orders it) -- I would say that there's no distortion of understanding here...
If you're asking from that same department of the State of Hawaii to produce a certified copy -- for which they just said that statement above, officially and for the public -- and then you say that as far as their statement is concerned it's "garbage in garbage out" -- but I want the certified copy that they also produce -- then I would say that you've got a problem with reality here... LOL...
That's so apparent that you've seem to miss it... you want the very copy that they produce, but you don't want what they officially say about Obama...
That sounds more like you don't want to accept what they already know and have on record, more than anything else.