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Schwarzenegger budget tallies $397 million from traffic camera tickets
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/9/10 | Steve Wiegand

Posted on 01/09/2010 9:52:15 AM PST by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is counting on lead-footed California drivers to help dig the state out of its latest budget hole.

Buried in the details of the governor's spending plan released Friday is a proposal to raise nearly $400 million by allowing cities and counties to install "automated speed enforcement systems," also known as speed cameras.

The devices could be attached to existing cameras that monitor red light violations, and would track speeders by license plate. The tickets would come in the mail.

Infractions would result in fines of $225 for going up to 15 miles an hour above the limit, and $325 for more than 15 mph. The state's share of the take, an estimated $337.9 million, would help pay for trial court operations and court security. Local governments would keep 15 percent, an estimated $59.6 million, of the total $397.5 million collected.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: goldenstate; schwarzenegger; trafficcamera; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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Just as long as they don't call it a "speed tax" I guess it's alright.
1 posted on 01/09/2010 9:52:17 AM PST by SmithL
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To: bamahead

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2 posted on 01/09/2010 9:54:33 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SmithL

They should focus in like AZ:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/us/03arizona.html


3 posted on 01/09/2010 9:54:52 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: SmithL

Schwarslessnager is a pathetic IDIOT who is dragging California further into a totalitarian state. I’m sooooo sick of his incompetence and embracing of leftists ideas. He can go to hell.


4 posted on 01/09/2010 9:56:24 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: SmithL

Smile. You’re on aRnie Camera.

One more ring in the ‘ol Legacy hottub, I reckun..

When Common Man becomes Common Criminal.

AB32


5 posted on 01/09/2010 9:57:46 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: SmithL
When people get tickets, they can pay without question, request a court date and fight the ticket, or simply ignore the ticket because law enforcement cannot prove they received it.

Ahh, let me see...that's a tough question. pay the ticket, try and fight it (and probably lose and have to pay even higher fine for being an insubordinate subject) or ignore it without any consequence at all. I have to think hard about that one....hmmm...what to do?

6 posted on 01/09/2010 10:01:16 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SmithL

And of course the illegals, who will comprise a disproportionate amount of offenders, will pay right up after a quick trip to the pawn shop.


7 posted on 01/09/2010 10:06:39 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SmithL
Ahhhhhhnold has made his fortune and gained his fame in America, you'd think by now most of that accent would be gone.

My ex-wife is from Germany, and she spoke better English than Ahhhhhhold after being here only 5 or 6 years...her vocabulary might not have been as extensive, but she was a hell a lot easier to understand...and without any Hollywood speech coaching.

Anyway, Ahhhhnold has played too many terminators who accomplished whatever he wanted by brute force...it doesn't work that way in real life, Arnie baby.

If I lived in CA right now, making $60K a year, I'd take a job in TX making $40K just to get the hell out of liberal la-la land. The more money taking schemes that Ahhhhhnold and his ilk come up with, the more people who leave and take their money with them.

Those folks who live there have GOT to be asking, "What the hell is next?".
8 posted on 01/09/2010 10:07:22 AM PST by FrankR (Unions promote socialism and mass mediocrity amongst human beings, at their own expense.)
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To: FrankR

They actually think traffic tickets will keep the Socialist idiocy afloat...Pathetic. Prediction..By next year there will be a bounty on envirowhacko scalps.


9 posted on 01/09/2010 10:15:42 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: SmithL

The goverment in all of the states has found that they can steal peoples money by sending our public servants out with guns and badges to collect the bounty.

Our law officers were once known as peace officers, but what they have become is money colectors.

Its real simple, we have to have some laws, and if some one breaks them, then they pay a fine, but the states controled mafia,s has become so dependent on the fines that are collected that they now have to count on those fines just to run goverment.

Is that what our founders had in mind? if some how every one decided to be law abiding and strickly obey the thousands of laws, even the stupid ones, like the seat belt law, or the 2 second stop sign laws or the so many feet at the stop sign laws, the states would go into panic.

You would then see them come out with more laws that they could collect off of before people got aquainted with these new laws.

Some laws make sense, most are just for revenue collections, its the law versus the people.


10 posted on 01/09/2010 10:21:17 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: SmithL; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; SierraWasp

We have big time red light camera fines in Wino Country:

http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2010/01/09/news/local/doc4b48281e0508f798153258.txt

Red light camera turns on Saturday
Saturday, January 09, 2010

Napa’s newest red light camera will begin operation at midnight Saturday at Imola and Soscol avenues.

Police will be issuing warning citations for the next 30 days to motorists who enter the intersection after the light has turned red. After that, violators will be hit with a minimum $435 fine, police Sgt. Tom Pieper said.
This is the city’s third red light camera. Since cameras were installed last April at First and Jefferson streets and at Trancas Street/Soscol, those intersections have had no injury collisions due to red light running, Pieper said.

Citywide, collisions caused by red light violations have dropped 38 percent since last spring, he said.


Years ago in a budget cut the local PC rulers eliminated the use of cops on motorcycles and basically discourage ticketing people because so much of the fine went to Sacramento and a large % of those caught were illegals, who moved and/or changed their names to avoid paying a fine.

Within months, drivers of all ages, sexes and ethnic background started running red lights, stop signs and running over people in cross walks.

We had a new mayor and he brought back the motorcycle cops but the bad habits remained.

My wife drives though one of the first intersection with the red light camera to and from her office. It was a rare day if she didn’t see more than one person running that light on the way to and from her office.

Hundreds of “get out my way drivers” got warning tickets during the first month of the red light running photos. Then the real tickets started coming out with some real increases in insurance costs.

Apparently, some drivers got two or more photo tickets before they realized how expensive it became to run red lights.

Those two camera monitoring intersections have had a drop in accidents and recently tickets.

The newer red light cameras being installed still have scofflaws running the lights. One intersection is very bad, and you wonder if you stop for a red light if you will get rammed in the rear by a tailgaiter intent on running the red light.


11 posted on 01/09/2010 10:25:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: ravenwolf

IT started with “taffic specific” enforcement teams. THen red light and ‘speed’ camera. All about the money.

Wait until organ transplants are both common and easy - what will rate the death penalty then? IT will become ‘all about you’.


12 posted on 01/09/2010 10:25:41 AM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: SmithL
wow! a mile an hour over=$225 in a virtual NO Trial situation?

after all, you can't question a camera!

they'll have to build an extra lane on every highway leaving the state to handle all the traffic!

13 posted on 01/09/2010 10:27:35 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: SmithL

Why don’t they just charge $1,000,000 per infraction, and they can balance the whole budget?

Idiots.


14 posted on 01/09/2010 10:30:48 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

the cameras are setup to collect more taxes. They’re downplaying the estamate of how much revenue they’ll collect. Its many times that


15 posted on 01/09/2010 10:52:30 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

The tickets are not sent to the person who committed the crime. They are sent to the person that owns the vehicle.
I will never get a ticket from one of these cameras as none of the vehicles I drive are licensed in my name.

It’s unconstitutional, but there’s no reason to have little details like that get in the way of some big brother fundraising. /s


16 posted on 01/09/2010 11:04:14 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: SmithL

Let me get this right, conservative law and order people are grousing about the lack of fudge factor in our legal system as what, unsportsmanlike? Meanwhile they rail against climategate scientists for fudging the numbers.

Let me encourage law enforcement to assign an accident scene officer to video the spurting blood and gore along with funeral scene followups of grieving family members for YouTube. I have no difficulty with the idea of disobeying or otherwise protesting unjust laws, but traffic regulations seem to follow the rules of logic.


17 posted on 01/09/2010 11:50:00 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

You don’t seem to understand this issue.

The DRIVER who ran the red light is NOT ticketed.

The OWNER of the VEHICLE is ticketed.

How can a vehicle break the law?
Why should the owner of the vehicle be responsible for another driver’s infractions?

If running a red light, by DRIVERS, is causing numerous accidents at a particular intersection, then post an entry level cop there and have him do his job of enforcing the law.


18 posted on 01/09/2010 12:12:39 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: SmithL

These red light/speed cameras are already up over most cities in Broward County Florida at every light and growing.


19 posted on 01/09/2010 12:43:09 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: Grampa Dave

I never knew that Napa was CA’s “red light distric!!!” (snort!) I knew it was the red wine district, however... (grin)


20 posted on 01/09/2010 9:18:52 PM PST by SierraWasp (i 4 i, 2th 4 2th, L8 4 D8, tit 4 tat, GR8 B8!)
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