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Burning of Indian man not racially motivated: police
The Australian ^ | January 9, 2009 | Steve Lillebuen

Posted on 01/08/2010 11:52:32 PM PST by myknowledge

CRIME squad investigators say the circumstances leading up to a 29-year-old Indian man being set on fire in an alleged attack are "unusual" - but not racially motivated.

The man is recovering in hospital in serious condition with burns to his hands, face and legs after parking his car in Melbourne's northwest.

It's alleged that the man was randomly approached by four men who burned his car and set him on fire.

"I believe there's no reason at this stage to consider this in any way racially motivated,'' Detective Acting Senior Sergeant Neil Smyth told reporters today.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; hatecrime; melbourne; racistattack
How can this cowardly attack on an Indian guy in Melbourne 'be not racially motivated'?
1 posted on 01/08/2010 11:52:33 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Muslim on Hindu crime?


2 posted on 01/08/2010 11:55:41 PM PST by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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Unless people of many ethnicities are being set ablaze in Australia, and given the news about the increase in attacks on Indians in Australia, there probably isn't anything all that random about this attack. If Australia is that hostile to Indian students, they should probably get their education somewhere else.
3 posted on 01/09/2010 12:03:53 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: myknowledge

An insurance job gone wrong?


4 posted on 01/09/2010 12:04:34 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: myknowledge

Don’t worry... they’ll reclassify it as a suicide next.


5 posted on 01/09/2010 12:06:07 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: ZULU

Pretty much yes.


6 posted on 01/09/2010 12:12:09 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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If not racially motivated it’s at least ethnically motivated. There have been a number of incidents of late of attacks on Indian students in Australia.


7 posted on 01/09/2010 12:14:18 AM PST by libh8er
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To: myknowledge

Quite easily.

If the attackers motivations had nothing to do with the man’s race, it’s not a racially motivated attack. Maybe they were drug dealers and he owed them money? Maybe he has a dog whose barking keeps them up at night. We don’t know but there are plenty of attacks that occur that have nothing to do with race.

Yes, there have been some racially motivated attacks on Indians in Australia recently - but it doesn’t follow that every single attack on an Indian is therefore racially motivated. And if we want and expect police to investigate these crimes properly, we need them starting their investigations with an open mind and not making assumptions until there is evidence to back them up.


8 posted on 01/09/2010 12:51:43 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Ping to my comment at #9 - there's no reason to assume that an attack on an Indian must have a racial or ethnic motivation. The possibility shouldn't be ignored - it does happen - but it also shouldn't be assumed.
9 posted on 01/09/2010 12:53:35 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: myknowledge

If this had occurred in the USA, then the only possible explanation would be that the perp is not a whitey.


10 posted on 01/09/2010 2:36:21 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ZULU; myknowledge; AnotherUnixGeek; The Magical Mischief Tour; Jeff Chandler; libh8er; ...

More details:

Indian set on fire in Melbourne

PTI, 9 January 2010, 02:34pm IST

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/indians-abroad/Indian-youth-set-on-fire-in-Melbourne/articleshow/5426643.cms

MELBOURNE: In yet another attack targeting Indians in Australia, a 29-year-old man from the country was set on fire by a group of four assailants here, drawing strong condemnation from a student body which called such assaults unacceptable and asked authorities not to “dodge” the issue.

Jaspreet Singh was attacked in Essendon area of northwest Melbourne shortly before 2.00 am local time (0730 HRS IST), a week after an Indian student was stabbed to death amid a slew of assaults on the community in Australia.

Singh, who suffered 20 per cent burns including on his arms, chest and face, was admitted to ‘The Alfred’ hospital.

Singh and his wife left a dinner party in Essendon, in the city’s northwest, between 1.30 am and 2 am and drove to their nearby home in Grice Crescent. He dropped his wife at home and had gone to park his car when he was attacked, local media reported.

Police said that as he was getting out of the car, four men attacked him, pushing him back against the vehicle and pouring an unknown fluid on him. One of the men then ignited the fluid with a lighter before all the attackers fled.

The victim, who is now in a stable condition in the hospital, ran from the car while peeling off his clothes.

Denying any racial angle to the attack, detective acting senior sergeant Neil Smyth said it is not yet known who the four men could be or their relationship to the victim. He said investigations indicate the attack was random.

“It’s unlikely to be a racially motivated incident as due to the timing and the nature, it’s highly unlikely anyone could have targeted the victim in the circumstances,” Smyth said.

The incident is being investigated by the arson and explosives squad of police.

Police appealed for public assistance to locate the victim’s clothes, which he shed as he fled the scene.

Singh’s friends said he has been living in the city on a spouse visa.

Meanwhile, Gautam Gupta, President of Federation of Indian Students of Australia (FISA), said such attacks are unacceptable and the federal Government must act against them.

“We are extremely disturbed, we have contacted the Prime Minister’s office and have suggested that they intervene, it’s high time they intervene,” he said. “How many times are they going to just dodge this issue.”

Australian Deputy Premier Julia Gillard condemned the attack on Singh, saying the “matter remains under investigation by Victorian police and government would not comment further until police provide more information”.

“Government condemns such acts of violence in the strongest way,” she said.

The attack comes a week after the stabbing death of 21-year-old Indian graduate Nitin Garg in a Yarraville park while he was on his way to his part-time job in a restaurant.

The body of another Indian youth, 25-year-old Ranjodh Singh, was found beside Wilga Road in Willbriggie in the neighbouring state of New South Wales on December 29.


Attacks not racist, just urban crime: Australian Envoy

TNN, 7 January 2010, 03:55am IST

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Attacks-not-racist-just-urban-crime-Envoy/articleshow/5418402.cms

NEW DELHI: A day after the government issued an advisory for Indian students, Australian High Commissioner Peter Varghese said the attacks on Indian students in the country seemed to be “opportunistic, urban” crimes which did not appear to be racist in nature. Australia has refused to acknowledge that the violence against Indians are racist attacks and Varghese on Wednesday said this was only because, as yet, there was no evidence for Canberra to describe them as hate crimes.

“A majority of these have been opportunistic, urban crimes. In some, there would appear to be racial motivation. It’s not that we are refusing to admit that there are racist attacks. But to reach a conclusion there has to be evidence for it. As of now, we don’t know who has done it and so we don’t know the motive,” Varghese said.

Meanwhile, Punjab chief minister Parkash Singh Badal and his son Sukhbir Singh Badal, who is deputy chief minister, met Varghese and sought immediate steps to ensure safety of Punjabi students and immigrants in Australia.

Varghese admitted the attacks could see a dip in student admissions from India in this academic year. “I am expecting a decline in 2010. But there are a variety of reasons — the global economic recession, the higher exchange rate, the cost of living and I accept that the perception of safety of students can deter families from sending them,” said Varghese.

“I am not in the numbers game. I regret that the incidents have gone up but the number of Indian students applying for programmes has also gone up from 30,000 to 100,000 in the last three years,” he added.


Indian students in Sydney allege Lebanese youths attack them

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_indian-students-in-sydney-allege-lebanese-youths-attack-them_1264032

Sydney: Indian students alleged on Thursday that Lebanese youths were behind the racially-motivated attacks on them here as they took to the streets for the third consecutive night protesting against racial attacks.

The spate of racial attacks against Indians spread to Sydney after members of the community were targeted in Melbourne.

Scores of Indian students last night took to the streets of Harris Park in Sydney for the third consecutive night to protest racially-motivated against them by Lebanese youths.

The protesters alleged that police were ignoring their pleas for protection.

The protests came a day after prime minister Kevin Rudd warned Indian students against “vigilante action” to prevent attacks against them.

Indian protesters continue to say that they were being attacked by Lebanese youths. A man, who took part in the protest, was issued with a court notice for carrying an offensive weapon after being allegedly found with a piece of timber during a police search.

Meanwhile, Parramatta city council held a meeting with police, India’s Consul General and members of Sydney’s Indian community, with organisers saying students had agreed to stop protest rallies.

Prime minister Kevin Rudd warned Indian students on Wednesday against “vigilante action”, saying while violence in all Australian cities was “a regrettable part” of urban life, vigilante action was equally unwelcome.

Superintendent Robert Redfern expressed sympathy for the students’ concerns, but urged them not to take matters into their own hands.

“I am not a fan of vigilante groups. I am not a fan of people taking the law into their own hands. That’s our job,” Redfern said.

“The victims of crime that do occur in this area are not exclusively Indian, the perpetrators of those crimes are not exclusively Middle Eastern,” he said.

Redfern said he planned to meet with Sydney’s Indian community leaders later this week.

NSW premier Nathan Rees said a meeting with Indian leaders last week emphasised the need for everyone to keep a cool head and report any incidents to police immediately.

“Police have escalated their presence and their monitoring of the situation in that part of Sydney, but everyone is to keep calm,” he said on Wednesday.

“There is no place for violence, there is no place for this sort of antisocial behaviour in NSW or Australia.”

“What I would say is there are mechanisms in place now for appropriate dialogue to occur,” he said, adding “we’ll be in ongoing discussions with the student leaders and community leaders.”


Who is attacking Indian students in Australia?

Published : June 10 2009 Indian Catholic News

By John FG McMahon

http://www.indiancatholic.in/news/storydetails.php/12338-1-5-Who-is-attacking-Indian-students-in-Australia-

Please be assured that the problem lies not with ordinary Australians but disaffected immigrant/refugee youth of Sudanese and Middle-Eastern origin. As the students have themselves described, their attackers are in the main “black men (Africans)” or “Middle-Eastern”.

These immigrants/refugees have been warmly welcomed and embraced but they repay us with conduct such as this. One incident involved a Catholic nun walking down a Sydney street. She passed by two Muslim women dressed in their garb who turned on her, assaulted her, spat on her and tore the crucifix chain from her.

So please ignore the media there in India who have no idea at all. Our media, because of political correctness, refuses to describe the ethnicity of the attackers.

The Cronulla riots a few years ago came about with frustration by the locals with the lack of protection by the police from marauading Lebanese Muslim gangs who were brazeningly invading shops, restaurants, bars and cafes spitting and urinating on patrons and assaulting/intimidating all and sundry. One incident involved a young mother who had taken her toddler daughter to the beach.

The toddler was playing in the water when a gang of these militants came up to the mother and demanded that she cover up her daughter who was wearing a regular modest bathing costume. She refused and told them to go away. They did but returned a little later with knives. The young mother fled with her daughter.

A young fellow who had been away at sea for some weeks returned and was withdrawing money from a ATM. He was assaulted by one of these gangs and critically injured. He was repeatedly stabbed and the assault only stopped when the knife broke off in his back. These gangs hunt the streets at night looking for “skips”, their term for Australians. Now they have turned their attention to easier marks- students from India.

My view is that these immigrants/refugees should return to their countries of origin and take their violent evil disruptive ways with them. Australia is a land of immigrants. I am second generation Irish-Australian. Everyone has assimilated. From Greeks, Italians, Lebanese Catholics/Christians,Russians,Eskimos,South Americans, South Africans (black and white), Mexicans etc etc all get along except for those from Muslim countries/areas.

The Government(s), politicans and police are afraid to control these Muslims for fear of being labelled “racist”. This is the usual cry (yelp?) from the Muslims when they are criticized in any manner, rightfully or wrongfully.


11 posted on 01/09/2010 6:40:45 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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Thanks for the post.

Getting tough on the Muslims is what I would do.

12 posted on 01/09/2010 7:03:48 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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Muslims are, have been, and always will be, a major problem to contend with.

They are simply incapable of being integrated, unless it means letting down the host society’s standards, or personal sacrifice by Muslims by giving up their backward excuse of a culture.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 6:12:26 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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