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To: nhwingut
I really cannot fault the judge for this. It is illegal to coerce a confession from a criminal suspect in the US criminal justice system. If a cop had done the same thing to any criminal suspect this too would have been rejected by the courts.

Of course, this is why you don't prosecute foreign terrorists in US courts.

16 posted on 01/08/2010 12:51:11 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
I really cannot fault the judge for this. It is illegal to coerce a confession from a criminal suspect in the US criminal justice system.

I agree. War and crime are different things. The blame rests squarely on those who determined that this was a criminal matter.
19 posted on 01/08/2010 12:56:16 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: pnh102

Bingo.

I’ll be surprised if they are convicted. AFAIK practically all of the evidence against them was collected counter to US judicial standards and will be thrown out.


22 posted on 01/08/2010 1:02:14 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: pnh102

pnh is exactly right
“I really cannot fault the judge for this. It is illegal to coerce a confession from a criminal suspect in the US criminal justice system.”

The system exists for civilians in our country.
These terrorists are not civilians.
We are pretty well screwed once it was decided to try them as civilians, whether it is KSM or the knickerbomber.

If you read the whole link you see the Judge did decide that other confessions given by these muslim are valid and can be used to hold him

the Judge was appointed by Reagan. I don ‘t think he had any choice in how he ruled.

The choice should be to NOT try them as civlians


27 posted on 01/08/2010 1:07:02 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: pnh102
I really cannot fault the judge for this. It is illegal to coerce a confession from a criminal suspect in the US criminal justice system. If a cop had done the same thing to any criminal suspect this too would have been rejected by the courts.

Exactly. The judge was doing his job. His decision was driven by American criminal law. Confessions which have been improperly gained -- by American criminal law standards -- should be thrown out.

By the same token, an international terrorist captured on the field of combat overseas has no business being tried in an American criminal court.

Eventually, in the NY "show trials", a Federal judge is going to be confronted with a fundamental conflict between applying the law (and dismissing charges) or prostituting the law and supporting the political regime (by allowing a conviction).

50 posted on 01/08/2010 1:43:29 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: pnh102

“I really cannot fault the judge for this. It is illegal to coerce a confession from a criminal suspect in the US criminal justice system. If a cop had done the same thing to any criminal suspect this too would have been rejected by the courts.”

True.


55 posted on 01/08/2010 2:22:27 PM PST by chessplayer
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