You are right on the money. And you said it much better than I did.
It seems that some conservatives are willing to exercise tyranny as easily as the Liberals are doing it.
Our focus should be on taking power away from the Central Government and not just changing the emphasis of tyranny tfrom one on the left to one on the right.
FWIW every person in America, if they so much as buy a gallon of gas or turn on a light at home is a "taxpayer". So if you try to limit the voting right to those who pay taxes, then what is meant by that? Income taxes? What if you don't have an income or the money you earn is tax free? Should you then be prohibited from voting? Such a proposal should not even be suggested on a forum called FREE REPUBLIC!
This thread and this movement may be a "work in progress" but I don't particularly like the direction it is headed. Is it our aim to overturn tyranny from the left only to replace it with a tyranny from the right? Some of these proposals appear to be leaning that direction.
Rather than focusing on a platform that limits our freedoms of religion, our voting rights and our free speech rights, perhaps we should be focusing on how we can remove the power to regulate ANY aspect of our lives from the Central Government and returning that power to the States, the communities, and to the Individuals. That is the principle this nation was founded upon. That is the first principle of a FREE REPUBLIC.
“FWIW every person in America, if they so much as buy a gallon of gas or turn on a light at home is a “taxpayer”. So if you try to limit the voting right to those who pay taxes, then what is meant by that? Income taxes? What if you don’t have an income or the money you earn is tax free? Should you then be prohibited from voting? Such a proposal should not even be suggested on a forum called FREE REPUBLIC!”
I agree with you about the taxpayer platform. As I repeatedly stated, this is a flesh out thread. There are taxes everyone pays whether we like it or not and money, or the lack thereof, should NOT be the deciding factor in who does or does not vote.
The author of those points has HIS opinion. I have mine. On this point, I have a somewhat different perspective.
I think it becomes difficult when we see people gaming the system because for those people, our taxes pay for the money they use to pay the taxes you spoke of. OTOH, there are many people who need and deserve the help they get. The abuses are so blatant and so in your face, we tend to forget the people in genuine need or the hardworking people whose salaries are below the poverty level, but they try so very hard to make ends meet.
It’s the squeaky wheel effect.
>What if you don’t have an income or the money you earn is
>tax free? Should you then be prohibited from voting? Such
>a proposal should not even be suggested on a forum called
>FREE REPUBLIC!
Producers, is a better word. Thank you. Could you not see that was the context? Why are you not offering better alternatives? Why see only the worst? Why scorn?
>This thread and this movement may be a “work in progress”
>but I don’t particularly like the direction it is headed.
>Is it our aim to overturn tyranny from the left only to
>replace it with a tyranny from the right? Some of these
>proposals appear to be leaning that direction.
What alternatives do you offer? Or are you just scorning to look smart?
>Rather than focusing on a platform that limits our
>freedoms of religion, our voting rights and our free
>speech rights, perhaps we should be focusing on how we can
>remove the power to regulate ANY aspect of our lives from
>the Central Government and returning that power to the
>States, the communities, and to the Individuals. That is
>the principle this nation was founded upon. That is the
>first principle of a FREE REPUBLIC.
Then do it. It just so happens, some people will actively oppose Islam in this effort.
There are no commands in this thread. If people want to step up to do something, then they can.
You can do what you want. Just because you find it distasteful to oppose Islam, it does not mean you are commanded to if you will help.
Just admit you were shortsighted, and move on. It’s the adult thing to do.
We had a woman come to our church, and testify that she was from Lebanon, and that the freedoms they gave to the Muslims were used by the Muslims to subjugate the Christian community. She warned us against this mistake her country had already made.
Again, you are under-informed, and naive about this.
You still have not responded to my questions in posts 76 and 77. This leads me to believe your position is extremely weak and indefensible. Beyond avoiding them, and speaking vaguely about freedom, you don’t have much.
Do you realize that you are arguing in a circle? Why are you doing this? Is is your intent to jam and halt this project before we can really achieve ANYTHING meaningful? This is about elections which are bearing down on us very quickly.