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Nigerian Indicted in Terrorist Plot (He was NOT Mirandized)
New York Times ^ | January 7, 2010 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 01/07/2010 10:16:19 AM PST by La Lydia

The indictment of a Nigerian man on Wednesday for the attempt to blow up a plane bound for Detroit on Christmas Day has rekindled a debate over whether such terrorism suspects should be treated as criminals or as enemy detainees. In a six-count indictment, a federal grand jury in Michigan charged the man, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, with attempted murder on a plane, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction and related offenses. Mr. Abdulmutallab is to be arraigned on Friday....

But several administration officials said on Wednesday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation did not initially read Mr. Abdulmutallab his Miranda rights nor provide him with a lawyer when agents interrogated him.

Law enforcement officials had concluded that because they had a planeload of eyewitnesses who could testify against Mr. Abdulmutallab, they did not need to worry about the fact that if he made any self-incriminating statements before being read his rights, they would not be admissible in court.

... A law enforcement official said Mr. Abdulmutallab explained who gave him the bomb, where he received it and where he was trained to use it, among other things.

Eventually, Mr. Abdulmutallab stopped talking and asked for a lawyer, which he received about 30 hours after his arrest. It was not clear when in that timeline that the F.B.I. read him his Miranda rights...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; mirandawarning; terror; violence
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To: hoe_cake
This episode highlights the insanity of treating foreign nationals caught in acts of sabotage in the same manner as domestic criminals.
21 posted on 01/07/2010 11:19:22 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: La Lydia

He should not have been mirandized and given a lawyer for the first week maybe two. The first and continuing priority should have been and should still be intelligence.

30 hours was too soon to usher the bomber into the criminal justice process. He should still be held and interrogated as an enemy combatant.

The administration is just trying to CYA with their stupid and dangerous ACLU derived policy.


22 posted on 01/07/2010 11:40:57 AM PST by Valpal1 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: La Lydia

Bullshit. Whole lot of revisionism going on here.

Let me get this straight. Joe Blow is arrested for a serious felony. Many witnesses have identified Joe Blow as the perp. Joe Blow is not mirandized or offered an attorney. Moot point—everyone “knows” he did it.

This disgusting show of hypocrisy turns my stomach. Either Obama offers the protection of the Constitution or he doesn’t. There is no half measure.

The reality is if this is true he has lied to his base along with everyone else.


23 posted on 01/07/2010 11:49:08 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: jveritas

I agree, he should be court martialed and executed.

’ I was pointing out that according to the NYT article linked he would have gotten the same rights even if charged as an enemy combatant.

This from the article linked.
“But administration officials argued that he would have the same right to a lawyer in military custody because the Supreme Court has ruled that terrorism detainees have a constitutional right to file habeas corpus lawsuits challenging their detention”

This is BS but for now it is what it is


24 posted on 01/07/2010 11:56:13 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

The democrap criminal enterprise now runs the oligarchy. They make the policy and define the rules as they choose whenever they choose. ... The scary thing is, more than 50% of your fellow voting Americans want it this way! THAT is why you must own and learn to use a good, dependable firearm or three: when the fools crash the system, many of these opposition-to-the-Republic voters will be looting homes for food, etc., and killing anyone/anything which gets in their way to what they ‘deserve’, just like obamacare is ‘their right’. In that day, some folks will deserve killin’ and you better be ready to decide whom ...


25 posted on 01/07/2010 12:02:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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