Posted on 01/06/2010 6:26:25 PM PST by tobyhill
Beijing had its coldest morning in almost 40 years and its biggest snowfall since 1951. Britain is suffering through its longest cold snap since 1981. And freezing weather is gripping the Deep South, including Florida's orange groves and beaches.
Whatever happened to global warming?
Such weather doesn't seem to fit with warnings from scientists that the Earth is warming because of greenhouse gases. But experts say the cold snap doesn't disprove global warming at all it's just a blip in the long-term heating trend.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
“2009 Warmest year since 1880”
OK...Got Measurments ? collected from what Locations, how many, and let’s see the Trick Adjustments in you Computer Code......if you haven’t moved and lost them.
Federal Grants can BUY Scientists by the Dozens.
At least “Peer Review” is now removed from any GW Propaganda.
The “blip” is going on 12 years now...
Some blip...
Couldn't the inverse be true also? The "warming" is just a blip...
Yup hes muslin im sur e od it
I didn't turn my air conditioner on but one time in central Ohio last summer - usually, it runs non-stop from July to the middle of August, or later. We escaped to Delray Beach last month, where we are freezing our behinds off right now. It's 44, but with the wind, if EASILY feels like it's in the 30's.
Actually, if one looks at the Vostok ice core data, the position you enunciated, whether seriously or in jest, is perfectly reasonable. The Holocene interglacial has been going on about as long as a typical interglacial period. Quite frankly, we may wish for some anthropogenic global warming if the Holocene is running out.
The global warming zealots need to just give up. Mother nature is not cooperating with their scam. They got caught, the cyclical trend of warming didn’t last long enough for them to pull off their fraud.
What “greenhouse gases” are causing “global warming”? This whole thing reads like a fairytale. They’re supposedly scientists, can’t they give us specifics instead of conjecture?
Yes. The point real point, that needs to be made over and over again, is the only “proof” for anthropogenic global warming is computer models that omit the natural causes of the last decade’s declining temperatures. If the model omits something big enough to completely blot out the effects the model predicts, then the model is worthless and doesn’t prove anything, since the same (or different) omitted phenomena may account for what the model attributes to features included.
There are mathematical reasons why even better models would be worthless for long-term prediction: the earth’s weather (of which climate is merely a long-term average) is governed by non-linear differential equations, which exhibit what is popularly called “chaotic dynamics”, extreme sensitivity to initial conditions (cf. “the butterfly effect”). Even an honest computer model complete with the right boundary conditions for the atmosphere (it is *not* semi-infinite), including Svensmark’s cosmic-ray effect on cloud formation, the greenhouse effect, correctly accounting for the effects of the oceans, and using honest data from every weather station on earth is worthless for actual prediction. As it is, the “climate modelers” weren’t even playing an honest game of SimEarth on their supercomputers, so their “predictions” and “proof” is doubly worthless.
Lower temperatures are higher temperatures.
It’s called “The Black Knight” strategy.
Never mind.
Just don’t miss the game tomorrow night!! Roll Tide!
There are mathematical reasons why even better models would be worthless for long-term prediction: the earths weather (of which climate is merely a long-term average) is governed by non-linear differential equations, which exhibit what is popularly called chaotic dynamics, extreme sensitivity to initial conditions (cf. the butterfly effect). Even an honest computer model complete with the right boundary conditions for the atmosphere (it is *not* semi-infinite), including Svensmarks cosmic-ray effect on cloud formation, the greenhouse effect, correctly accounting for the effects of the oceans, and using honest data from every weather station on earth is worthless for actual prediction. As it is, the climate modelers werent even playing an honest game of SimEarth on their supercomputers, so their predictions and proof is doubly worthless.
BTTT.
In all reality most of us are.
Look at Europe after three quarters of a century of failed socialist policies they still keep on electing social democrats of one gradient or another.
Then look at the US; Similar electoral results of only a slightly less socialist degree.
The Left knows how to get the majority to vote for them most of the time. There two main techniques are fear mongering (Oh no, look out this bad thing is going to happen if you dont let me stop it) and Santa Claus (Elect me and I will have the government do this for you).
It works over and over because people never get the details up front. They are never given the real cost of these things before they vote. If the opposition tries to tell the people it isnt widely reported and most of the people real dont understand. Also the lower income people are betting that they will benefit more than it will cost them in any case.
Even the Right never explains the Opportunity Cost of socialism. All of the money taken out of the economy and redirected in to social programs had it stayed in the private sector would have been multiplied several times by wealth creation and improved the standard of living of the entire society.
It's more like an interglacial started up about 15,000 years ago, got slightly interrupted by the Younger Dryas event, then started back up and for some reason schmoozed over into an "interstadial" that would have popped up AFTER the beginning of the next major glacial period.
I think this happened in one of the earlier cycles so it looks like there was a 35,000 year interglacial even though it was just some start and stop interstadials combined with a normal interglacial.
All it takes is a change in a major ocean current to get an interstadial going.
It's not like the Earth flips from a period with massive glaciers to one without massive glaciers ~ there's a lot of back and forth. The main part is typified by large ice sheets over a good part of North America (otherwise called Canada). The interglacials are possibly warmer than any of the interstadials but last 10,000 + years.
How convenient.
Someone needs to tell this knot-head this has already been proved false. And while they've got Mr. Arndt in the room , double check his academic credentials. I don't think, after that statement, he's smart enough to tie his shoes.
- Traveler
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