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To: American Constitutionalist

Hahaha... So it WAS a conspiracy to fake his birth place so he could become president 40+ years later.

Actually, that’s what the lib idiots and Beck would say to your comment — and keep saying it. It really chaps my @ss that they don’t get it. Stanley and her parents just wanted Zero to be an American citizen, not a Kenyan, or whatever. That’s why it was registered despite the fact he wasn’t truly born here, IMO.

I approach this logically. If Zero WAS born in an Hawai’ian hospital, wouldn’t that hospital NOW claim to be the birthplace of Oshithead? (Well, maybe not now that even libs see he’s a fascist, but certainly right after the election.) And IF it was a HIPAA/privacy issue, wouldn’t they just ask permission to state such a fact? And wouldn’t he give it, not caring that anyone knew?

That’s a simple, logical analysis — not of the documents — but based on the way people view and recognize historic events, such as the birthplace of a president. It makes perfect sense.

I have said before, it would add a lot of meat to the speculation — or answer it once and for all — if an Hawai’ian historical society/group announced that they wanted to put up an historical marker where Zero was born and asked Zero to give the place of his birth and permission to the hospital to confirm. Both perfectly logical things to do.

But that’s not happening, is it. So, according to Glen Beck and stupid liberals — and apparently Jamese777 — I’m a conspiracy nut simply because I can add 2 + 2 and balk because I keep being told the answer is 666.


190 posted on 01/08/2010 7:29:23 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
It really chaps my @ss that they don’t get it. Stanley and her parents just wanted Zero to be an American citizen, not a Kenyan, or whatever. That’s why it was registered despite the fact he wasn’t truly born here, IMO.

So if Stanley Ann was so desperate to have her son registered as having been born in America, to the point where she and her parents conspired to defraud the Hawaiian government, then why exactly would she travel halfway around the world to give birth in a third-world country in the first place?

Seems to me, if she *really* wanted to have her son born in America, she simply would have, y'know, stayed in America.

I have said before, it would add a lot of meat to the speculation — or answer it once and for all — if an Hawai’ian historical society/group announced that they wanted to put up an historical marker where Zero was born and asked Zero to give the place of his birth and permission to the hospital to confirm. Both perfectly logical things to do.

But that’s not happening, is it.

Last time I checked, there's no historical marker at Yale New Haven Hospital either. And they've had nine years to put one up. Is that suspicious too?

194 posted on 01/08/2010 10:07:03 AM PST by LorenC
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To: Lee'sGhost

Hahaha... So it WAS a conspiracy to fake his birth place so he could become president 40+ years later.

Actually, that’s what the lib idiots and Beck would say to your comment — and keep saying it. It really chaps my @ss that they don’t get it. Stanley and her parents just wanted Zero to be an American citizen, not a Kenyan, or whatever. That’s why it was registered despite the fact he wasn’t truly born here, IMO.

I approach this logically. If Zero WAS born in an Hawai’ian hospital, wouldn’t that hospital NOW claim to be the birthplace of Oshithead? (Well, maybe not now that even libs see he’s a fascist, but certainly right after the election.) And IF it was a HIPAA/privacy issue, wouldn’t they just ask permission to state such a fact? And wouldn’t he give it, not caring that anyone knew?

That’s a simple, logical analysis — not of the documents — but based on the way people view and recognize historic events, such as the birthplace of a president. It makes perfect sense.

I have said before, it would add a lot of meat to the speculation — or answer it once and for all — if an Hawai’ian historical society/group announced that they wanted to put up an historical marker where Zero was born and asked Zero to give the place of his birth and permission to the hospital to confirm. Both perfectly logical things to do.

But that’s not happening, is it. So, according to Glen Beck and stupid liberals — and apparently Jamese777 — I’m a conspiracy nut simply because I can add 2 + 2 and balk because I keep being told the answer is 666.


I do not believe that people are “conspiracy nuts” simply because they take a different position on an issue from me. I am fascinated with the legal issues involved in the Obama eligibility challenges and I have researched the issues carefully in order to try to separate fact from fiction.

Obama does not have to have been born in a hospital in order to be a natural born citizen. Many US presidents were not born in hospitals. If Obama had been delivered by a midwife on a beach in Oahu, he would still be a citizen-at-birth.

Furthermore since the passage of The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA)a hospital would be in violation of federal law if it released any information on the birth of a child in that facility without the consent of the person who was allegedly born there.

From a political point of view, every unsubstantiated rumor, every bit of unproven gossip and every poorly written and weakly argued lawsuit that is dismissed or denied a full hearing benefits Obama and makes his opposition look pathetic and desperate.

Thus far there have been more than 60 legal challenges to Obama’s eligibility including six at the US Supreme Court. Obama has won in every one of those legal challenges including going 6 for 6 in rulings at the US Supreme Court.

“The defintion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”—Albert Einstein

My solution to this issue is via the criminal courts not the civil courts. Any prosecuting attorney in the nation could launch a forgery/fraud investigation concerning Obama’s internet posted Certification of Live Birth and then that prosecutor could subpoena the original birth documents from Hawaii for examination by experts in front of a Grand Jury. If everything is on the up and up, no harm, no foul. If there is fraud or forgery, Obama would be impeached faster than you can say “Rod Blagojevich.”
To date, no prosecutor in the nation has been willing to take that step.
“If you hit the King, you have to kill him.”


198 posted on 01/08/2010 2:30:33 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Lee'sGhost
" Hahaha... So it WAS a conspiracy to fake his birth place so he could become president 40+ years later. "

Whether that is a stretch of the imagination or the truth is to be shorted out while people are in search of the truth...
Glenn Beck and others seem to be at a brain freeze in a state of being naive to think that all people are pure and innocent as the wind driven snow and think that people could not devise such shenanigans...
To think and say and mock those who are birthers and say that it's a coast to coast kook conspiracy to think that someone got in a time machine to promote this conspiracy and placed those 2 news paper adds back in 1961... that is the wrong angle or perspective to look at it... got to look outside the box to find answers.
It's not beyond the stretch of the truth or imagination to think that some relatives of a baby ( any baby ) born, could live in another state or country and called the news paper and give them the information.
199 posted on 01/08/2010 2:32:39 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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