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To: neverdem

If this was so powerful, I don’t think all these Dems would be dropping out of running next year - Dowd, Dorgan, etc.

I think it is more like I read another analyst - wish I could remember who - who basically said, they are fully aware they are going to get thrown out. All the closed door negotiations about the health care bill are really about making sure they are all getting taken care of after they leave. They knew this was a “fall on their sword” vote.

The idea is to get an unremovable foundation in place. Once it is in place, then the march toward socialism is inexorable. The foundation of the bill, along with the massive IRS involvement, will be impossible to undo.


6 posted on 01/05/2010 11:39:55 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: I still care

I think you have it right. It is so entwined with the commercial enterprise of this nation that the undoing will be impossible. SCOTUS needs to understand the whole damn thing unconstitutional and then fight that battle.


8 posted on 01/05/2010 11:51:49 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: I still care
If this was so powerful, I don’t think all these Dems would be dropping out of running next year - Dowd, Dorgan, etc.

It's Dodd in CT.

I thought the same at first. My guess is that they know they are toast. There's so much fraud in those places already that this marginal increase in more voting fraud potential isn't enough, even if it can be passed this year.

Now the rats want states rights for gun control. Everything else should be nationalized. The rats depend on fraud. What else is new?

10 posted on 01/06/2010 12:02:41 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: I still care

I was going to say basically the same thing...these crooked techniques only work if the votes come down to a few thousand or hundred votes. You know they tried the same in New Jersey(governor’s race)...but once the vote spread starts to get beyond a few per centage points, these techniques won’t work without looking like massive tampering. The trick is to convince enough folks to vote for conservatives to overcome the vote tampering that you know is going to occur. The evil Libs can shave a few per centage points off but they don’t dare go beyond(yet any way) that. So a conservative has to get at least 5 percent extra beyond what he normally would have to get to ensure that he actually “wins”.


24 posted on 01/06/2010 5:23:11 AM PST by mdmathis6
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I would agree with you as to the laying of the unremovable foundation. However, as to Dodd, Dorgan, etc. I believe they are not seeking re-election because they know they are beyond the vote stealing margin. I don’t think the strategy is to steal every vote, because that would be too difficult, but just enough to make a difference. If you can steal 3-5% in every election you’ll win almost every one of those. Dodd, Dorgan, etc. knew they were damaged goods but that a fresh ‘rat candidate could be within the vote stealing margin.


32 posted on 01/06/2010 10:46:55 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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