Nothing in her statement proves that the COLB he posted online is authentic and I don’t believe it is. Everything I have read points to it being fake.
Well, that's a "shifty" answer... LOL...
I say that because I never brought up the issue of the COLB posted online. And in light of what the State of Hawaii said -- it wouldn't matter if his campaign posted a shopping list online -- it still remains true that the State of Hawaii has stated in no uncertain way that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen.
I'm not saying something that is disputable, because I've already posted their direct copy (that they have online) to this thread. It's exactly what they said -- and -- they are the original certifiers of that information, the maintainers of that information and they are the only ones who can print the certified copies of that information (for any other agency to use for evidence).
Thus, if the very state who issues the birth certificates themselves and is qualified under the law to do so -- if they say that -- then I would say that pretty much cinches up the issue, in that one regard (of whether he was born there or not).
So, let’s just assume that he was born there and there is an authentic certificate on file. If the one he posted was a legitimate copy, why will he not let anyone (except FactCheck, with whom he has connections) see or touch it?
Well, I do appreciate your willingness to "assume it" (for the sake of discussion here) -- but -- I do have to say that it's gone way beyond the "assuming stage" when the State of Hawaii says it... LOL...
What you're asking here is what is the motive for doing such things, as you see being done. That's a completely different issue than the facts of the matter as to where he was born. We have the facts, as they are stated from the State of Hawaii, who issues the very birth certificate that you are asking for... :-)
The "motive" is unrelated to the facts of where he was born.
As for me, I don't know the motive and I could care less what the motive is. I have suspicions as to what the motive is, but it's not something that I really care to waste a lot of my time on.
But, for you, I'll post what I suspect his motives are. They could be in one of two areas and may be a combination of the two.
It's that there is some embarassing information on the full birth certificate that he doesn't want someone to know about his family (maybe the name of a real father, for example).
And then secondly, the situation that started developing with the "birth certificate issue" seemed to be a good thing for his campaign to use to "marginalize" certain conservatives (who jumped on the bandwagon of the issue) -- and to call them "kooks" and "crazies"....
It's like a commercial on TV about a charge card... what's the cost of not showing the full birth certificate, $1 million dollars.... but, "marginalizing some of the loudest conservatives opponents as kooks and crazies"... "priceless"... LOL....
And the trouble is, it's not only Obama and liberals who are trying to make out this small vocal segment (of birthers) as crazies and kooks -- but -- it's also the larger majority of conservatives who are now coming to the same conclusion, themselves, that they are "crazies" and "kooks" -- and that is certainly "priceless" to the opposition (i.e., to the liberals)...
Well, I do appreciate your willingness to “assume it” (for the sake of discussion here) — but — I do have to say that it’s gone way beyond the “assuming stage” when the State of Hawaii says it... LOL...
The state of Hawaii has never said that the COLB he posted online came from them. In fact, their early statements sounded to me like it didn’t. That is what got me interested and has kept me interested. I want it proven if the COLB posted online is a fake. I think it is. If so, a crime has been committed. I want it made public if a crime was committed and a conspiracy was used to keep it hidden.
He claims he is the son of a foreigner so as far as I am concerned, he is not a natural born citizen regardless of if he is native born.
Our founding fathers had far more brilliance and vision than any politician I’ve heard from in my lifetime. They didn’t use legalese of today’s crafty lawyers who make a living by being able to interpret the law anyway they please depending upon which client pays the most. They didn’t say native, they said natural. Now you can be a citizen lots of ways by amendments, naturalization, etc. but natural means by nature and you get that from your parents. Natural means not needing anything else such as amendments, naturalization, or 1/3 of the country’s citizens arguing about it. It is yours by nature when it is bestowed upon you by your parents. Nothing has to happen to make it so, it is your birthright.
Let’s just envision for a moment that Prince William came over here for a visit. He seduces a young woman. She conceives and bears a child. Prince William later becomes King William of Britain (remember the bloody war we fought against Britain to gain our independence) and provides the means to have his son installed as our President. That is exactly what our forefathers envisioned causing them to use the power of words to try and protect us.
I hope you don’t think I’m continuing to post on this subject in order to argue my point. That is not my purpose. I happen to believe strongly that there are many sane (not tin foil hat wearers) people who have legitimate questions as to why this is going on. The article below is evidence of that position. So, I don’t think Glenn Beck or anyone who cares about our country should ridicule them for their opinion and actions in trying to get at the truth.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121379