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To: SubmarineNuke
So let me get this straight...

I support no tax credits for anybody.

OK...

you support tax credits for certain industries.

Really? I had no idea. Where did I post that?

I say that gasoline/diesel would be 6 to 10 bucks without our tax dollars supporting Oil companies.

...based on the exhaustive research you conducted while completing your PhD in economics, no doubt.

I say that food would be 100 to 200 percent higher in price without subsidies.

...based on the research you conducted while compiling your Master's thesis.

I say that ethanol (w/o ANY subsidies) would be a cheaper alternative to gasoline (because, mainly, we have a viable infrastructure to manufacture it) and that it could bring a revenue stream to farmers that surely would feel the pinch due lost farming subsidies.

Wow. This whole "make stuff up as you go" approach is certainly liberating, isn't it?

Corn is what? 3 x higher than prices in 1950..Cars are 10 to 30 times higher, homes are 20 to 50 times higher...the list goes on.

Yeah, we should kill those government subsidies for home builders too!

Oh.... wait... Never mind.

I dont care if we are talking about ethanol or haircuts, if you are a capitalist, then the market needs to decide the price of a product, not us, as servants to a government that decides on “our behalf” what is the best thing to subsidize.

Guess what, FRiend? It's a bit more complicated than the outline you've given.

Why do you argue everything backward, like a liberal?

It's the ALTERNATIVE ENERGY sources that get subsidies, not petroleum. Your insistance that Big Oil gets taxpayer subsidies is absolutely, completely, laughably false. It's doubly absurd when you consider that there would be nearly NOTHING in the way of Ethanol fuel projects or wind farms without THEIR government subsidies.

Why project the sins of alternative energy's daydreams onto the real, proven economics of petroleum?

All your claims are just plain false. There's no other way to put it.

61 posted on 01/05/2010 2:23:52 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

I like the way you put things in perspective.

I tried to reason with him but he avoided my direct questions and went after oil companies.

Guys like that think oil is something unnatural when it actually is God’s blessing He gave us as natural as mining salt from the ocean.

Here’s another tag with substance I did not throw at him as he did not seem reasonable enough to accept it.

http://www.marshall.org/pdf/materials/472.pdf


62 posted on 01/05/2010 2:32:07 PM PST by bestintxas
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