Posted on 01/03/2010 6:54:35 PM PST by Man50D
I read the original from which you cut and pasted, and nowhere does it mention getting info from someone at Fox.
You are right. We need to see the long form BC....period. Beck may not be the best guy to do it. Where are our elected officials? Why doesnt congressman XYZ...call a press conference...approach the podium with his-her long form BC....then demand Hussein do the same.
WOW! I have been ragging O’Reilly about this for months. I will never forget the way he dismissivley blew off a reference to Obama’s status by saying “We checked this out. The Hawaian Government assured us that Obama is legitimate.” I Emailed him and asked whether he was arrogant enough to think that his assurance would settle the matter.
If this case goes to trial and Obama turns out to be illigitimate this country is going to explode. I have noted that Republicans have not pushed for Obama to produce a birth certificate. I have reached a point where I have no faith in any politician in government. We really could be on the verge of an armed revolt.
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It doesnt say they got it from fox, but the paragraph after they explain the info the did get, is this:
During the interview, Hagmann and McLeod—who never mentioned a particular network by name—alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession, copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations. But they did tantalize listeners with descriptions of meeting with “sources” outside of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City, a high-placed contact looking nervously over his shoulder, references to directives and warnings given by “those at the top,” and the undisguised threat of one executive to his underlings: “This is serious, and so will the consequences be if anyone chooses not to be a team player with this.”
This comes as no surprise to Fox watchers who have noticed that the Stalinist-style censorship of the Obama regime is already here. This couldn’t possibly be because of the healthy shares of stock the Saudis bought in Fox, could it? If so, why would the Saudis care so much about quashing potentially damning revelations about Obama? Have they also bought shares in Obama?
No! Your tin foil hat is working perfectly. Just like mine. I heard Banderas. O’Reilly had tried to blow this whole thing off over a month ago.
If it is proven that Obama has no birth certificate Fox News may see their ratings drop like a stone. They would deserve it too.
Of course there will be utter chaos if this goes to court, but Fox will have no credibility left.
You do realize that Hagmann is a plagiarist and that McLeod wrote an article on the mob being behind 9/11.
The whole article is a crock. The only thing that has any semblance of truth is the FCC thing I already alluded to.
When people like Hagmann and McLeod don’t name names, and talk about information being “secreted” and have a history such as they have, you best not rely on their material.
I know Beck has mentioned the issue and has said he’s said all he can say or cared to say about it and until something happens, if something happens ... like a fact ... there are more pressing issues. If you want to find the “citing” you ask for, for yourself, feel free to do all the research you want, the Internet is rich with Beck’s comments and I think you have been too lazy to look. Either that or you are intentionally ignoring the reporting Beck did PRIOR TO THE ELECTION and intentionally ignoring it. I prefer to think you were too lazy to search rather than being intentionally misleading. Beck covered the issue - the forgeries - the trip to Hawaii - all of it, but after the election he moved on - you haven’t ... that’s fair enough, but Beck has said his piece.
You can start with a Goggle search for “+Glenn Beck +Birth Certificate” here: http://www.google.com/search?q=%2BGlenn+Beck+%2BBirth+Certificate&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=
The links are numerous. The first link in the search is glennbeck.com: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/12701/
“Obama birth certificate ‘horrible forgery’ July 22, 2008”
Oddly enough the next link is also glennbeck.com and a transcript of a phone call shortly after the election and Glenn answering a caller on the issue. READ IT and educate yourself. I’ll post part of it. You could have done the search yourself and found this: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/17858/
If you are too lazy to read the whole transcript, at least read the last paragraph and reconsider your participation in the “Operation”.
Transcript:
GLENN: He is the — say it, Joe. He is the American President, right?
CALLER: He is the President of America. However, at this point I don’t accept —
GLENN: Say the words, he is the American President.
CALLER: I can’t accept him as the American President.
GLENN: Well, Joe, then you’re un-American because this is the way our system works, and this is — you are exactly the kind of person that caused so much trouble with George W. Bush. When the Supreme Court decided the way our system works, when the Supreme Court decided you count the way you are supposed to count the votes, you guys set this up, the Democrats were the ones who set it up. So you’ve got to play by those rules. When they counted the votes the way they were supposed to be counted and even when they counted them the way that they were trying to get them to count, you know, and change the rules, George Bush still won, they still said, “Well, he’s not my President; he was selected, not elected.”
No, the facts are he was elected the President of the United States through the Supreme Court and then the New York Times — that crazy — I mean, it might as well be reading the National Review. That crazy newspaper went back and counted them again and Al Gore still lost. And yet people said he’s not my President. Well, that was the problem. And Joe, you are now the person that you most likely railed against in 2000.
Barack Obama won. He is now our President. We do not sacrifice our values. We are not required to now become a socialist. We’re now not required to stand up and fight for the things that he believes in if we disagree, but we understand that he is the President of the United States.
So are you going to be a new kind of American that continues to separate us and continue to pull us apart?
CALLER: Let me ask you a question. How can you in good conscience accept him as President based on all the statements and so forth that he has made?
GLENN: Because, Joe, if I believe in our system, if I believe in our Constitution, which I map to, if I believe in it, this is the system that we created. Now, if you want to change the system, well, then that would put you kind of in the category that Barack Obama is in.
CALLER: Okay, you made a very good point. You mentioned the Constitution. Now then, one of the requirements based on the Constitution for him to be a candidate for the President or to be the President.
GLENN: If you go to the birth certificate thing, I think my head’s going to explode.
CALLER: I am, but I understand what you’re saying. It’s a moot point.
GLENN: Joe, you are this close to getting the first dump of this new presidency.
CALLER: All I’m trying to say is hypothetically —
GLENN: Let’s not talk hypothetically. Please, I know this is the — I know this is the position where we have the argument against the idiot, but please don’t make it this easy.
CALLER: No, no. All I’m saying is you have basically said that even if his birth — just for the sake of argument —
GLENN: The birth certificate, Joe, went through the court system! It was rejected! Now let’s move off the hearsay.
Would we also like to talk to all the people that say the United States and George Bush killed all the people in the levees, that he was planning to blow up the levees? Let’s move off the conspiracy theories! Let’s talk about the facts, and the facts are, Joe, that he is the American President and anyone who doesn’t accept him as the President of the United States is pure and simple un-American. That does not mean that you accept everything he does. That does not mean that you sell out your values. That doesn’t mean that you don’t fight for the Constitution and fight for what you believe in, but he is the President of the United States and if you believe in this system, then you are required, you are required to accept him as the President of the United States, period, and you support him in every way possible because we — a house divided will not stand.
CALLER: Take a breath there, Glenn. The little veins are standing out on your forehead. Are you still with me?
GLENN: Oh, I’m with you, Joe.
CALLER: Okay, all right. You said that the courts rejected the birth certificate thing, correct? And so therefore it’s a moot point. We need to move on.
GLENN: Get off my phone! I can’t take somebody who keeps going back to the birth certificate! Oh!
I swear to you, I told my wife the other day, there’s no place for us to go. There’s no place for us to go. The people on the left hate my guts. The people on the right hate my guts. I’m an enemy to everybody on planet Earth. Why? Because I believe in the Constitution, because I’m not going to pick up arms against the guy who was rightfully elected the President of the United States because I say give the man the benefit of the doubt. Let the man rule and let’s fight him the way Americans fight, in the ballot box, not on the streets, not through smears.
Look, we made good cases. We made the best case we could. The American people did not buy it. Great. We made the best case we could against Barack Obama but what we did wrong is we didn’t make a good case because we didn’t have a good candidate to make the case for what we are, to make the case for the conservative party, to make the case that we are free men, that we do not want to be — have the shackles of government. Well, let’s start making that case. That’s the case that needs to be made, and nobody has made it! Let’s make the case for who we are and for our Constitution and for freedom and for the rule of law.
A good start to defanging the kenyan is to make sure he loses the 60 vote super majority in the senate and he loses control of the house in 2010.
Well, there is at least a thread of sanity in your post. No, there is a lot of sanity there.
The only thing that would answer all this is that Media, judges, Congress, Military readers, etc. were given a threat they couldn’t wiggle out of. It could be this:
“If you’re the first one to open your mouth, you may be the only one. In the event 0b0z0 illegibility is even discussed, riots and CW II will break out and the blood of countless “victims” will be on your hands. Your family will be chased and killed, the military will enforce martial law and you’ll be tried for treason and executed!”
The best thing is to “talk” about his ghostly existence other than the BC. For instance, the pundits and the press talk about this to find out “our president’s brilliant GPAs” and education history. They’ll find out much more info that will disqualify him.
Same with other records, rinse and repeat.
Congressional Republicans and Conservative Democrats should demand info “because their constituents demand it.”
Your friendly Ghoster
I did see Sean address this once on his TV show. He was ad-libbing a remark, no segment was devoted to the controversy.
The only thing that would answer all this is that Media, judges, Congress, Military readers, etc. were given a threat they couldn’t wiggle out of. It could be this: “If you’re the first one to open your mouth, you may be the only one. In the event 0b0z0 illegibility is even discussed, riots and CW II will break out and the blood of countless “victims” will be on your hands. Your family will be chased and killed, the military will enforce martial law and you’ll be tried for treason and executed!”
Tell me you're kidding, please.
Why would FOX do that? Contrary to the claims of the DNC, the alphabet networks, and the whiners in the zer0 administration, they are a credible news organization. They try to deal with stories that have a substantially provable factual basis in reality.
The implications surrounding his birth certificate are somewhat damning - particularly the part where nearly a million dollars has been spent litigating in zer0’s behalf - but there are larger and easier fish to fry.
Like - never mind his eligibility - how about the Constitutional right of ANY US President to fire the CEO of a major corporation (GM),
or to appoint an unaccountable “compensation czar” to dictate what salary levels are allowable
or to actively interfere in a Federal bankruptcy case (GM and Chrysler) and essentially dictate what kind of deal will be approved
or passing instructions down the “chain of command” regarding what legal franchise owners (GM and Chrysler dealerships) will be summarily terminated without cause, without compensation, and without remuneration for their existing inventories of new vehicles and vehicle parts.
Continued advocacy for such a course is well-intentioned, but ill-conceived, and thus far poorly executed. It stands little chance of success at this time, especially when zer0bama and his allies are still so numerous, well-placed, powerful, and well-monied.
This is akin to blustering that one is going to step up to home plate in the major league, face the most formidable pitcher at the peak of his skills, and hit a home run out of the park - with no better previous experience than playing one season of tee ball, or Jr. high baseball.
It would be far more realistic to attempt to get a series of people on base (metaphorically speaking) with singles and walks and end up bringing runs across the plate
Or - to litigate something that has a better chance than a snowball in a blast furnace of surviving.
One resounding axe blow will NOT bring this administration to its knees, but innumerable well-placed strokes of a sharpened blade will.
Death by a thousand cuts, if you like.
Right now we face an unfriendly majority in House and Senate, and a largely unsympathetic majority of appointees in the judiciary.
We know that zer0bama is a corrupt Chicago-style, thug politician. We know that there is dirty money everywhere.
Planned Parenthood, ACORN, FANNIE/FREDDIE, Goldman-Sachs, AFL-CIO and SEIU, the UAW and dozens of others which are partially co-opted to totally corrupt from front to back and side to side.
The smart approach is to find the obvious threads that are loose and to pick at them until several different parts of the whole “suit” begin unravelling irreversibly.
Take back the House and Senate, and go after the corruption from the bottom up.
Underlings will always talk if the choice is “Roll over on the person giving orders, or face life in prison without possibility of parole”
Follow the hierarchy, and go after zer0 on that basis, because I guarantee you, he HAS COMMITTED High Crimes and misdemeanors - Impeachable acts - since he took the oath of office.
Get the goods on him, impeach him and remove him. Try him and convict him on those things.
Excrement rolls downhill, and once the rest of the ‘rats see they are no longer in control, they will turn on one another and on him.
Any information out there, vis-avis his birth certificate, eligibility, citizenship and anything else - will come rolling in as people dogpile on in an effort NOT to be the last person to offer information in exchange for a deal - ‘cause everybody knows that the last guy no longer has the power or the information exclusive to make a deal.
These people have low or no character; they are natural traitors, self-serving to the core, and utterly lacking in honor. They will “snitch one another out”
We ought to be going for the low-hanging fruit first in this situation.
How’s that for an onslaught of metaphors?
LOL! Remember we are on the same side - we know zer0 is against us and for himself, and that is all the working knowledge we need.
A.A.C.
No, I’m not kidding! Maybe they didn’t use my words exactly, but the responsibility of “riots, blood in the streets” is what they are threatening anybody of stature or should I say “standing?”
The0b0z0ids are scaring everybody of pursuing his BC would do to the country and they’re making sure it’s a dead end.
I know you’re ridiculing what you call “Birthers” and I’ll hold my opinion on that.
What about the rest of his records? Where are they? What are they afraid of?
Do you think that we should see his OTHER records? Does sealing ALL his records make any difference to you? If sealing all his records doesn’t bother you, then you should go after Ghosters too.
So which is it, norge?
Excerpt:
Eligibility to hold office is not a “fringe” matter, but a core constitutional issue that lies at the very heart of a growing controversy.
Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.
The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.
Did you ever think there might be a legit reason to not name a name? That there really was a judgment call made by the authors?
The person who came forward was willing to risk everything to do so. The authors decided not to allow it. I wish I could tell you what I learned in confidence but I cannot without endangering that person. If what I learned about the situation is true, then the reason for holding back is very compelling though I wish it weren’t.
Why do you find it so hard to believe that there is some kind of a black out? Obama is the only president of this country whose background is unknown and nobody with any clout will talk about it. You think that’s an accident?
The birth certificate, Joe, went through the court system! It was rejected! Now let’s move off the hearsay.
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The case has never been heard on its merits. All the cases have been rejected due to standing.
Glen is obfuscating and dodging throughout the entire call, and was bullying the caller, as well. ( I wonder why.)
Good post. Can’t disagree with anything you say.
If your scenario plays out and the traitors are defeated... if the US can get the economy back in the private sector and sensible things are done (cutting taxes, etc.)... if all the right things start getting done, maybe the republic will survive.
You know what worries me because is isn’t “fixable”? How many of the country’s secrets have been handed over to people like Soros or the Sauds? It gives me nightmares thinking about the access that has probably been given to a number of people who have no right to it and will use it against us. Clinton and China X 100. Rahm with his hand in the cookie jar.
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