Spy chiefs turn on President Obama after seven CIA agents are slaughtered in Afghanistan

Mail Online (Daily Mail UK) ^ | 02 January 2010 | David Gardner

[Skepolitic]

Spy chiefs turn on President Obama after seven CIA agents are slaughtered in Afghanistan By David Gardner

excerpt: Barack Obama was accused of double standards yesterday in his treatment of the CIA.

The President paid tribute to secret agents after seven of them were killed by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan. In a statement, he said the CIA had been ‘tested as never before’ and that agents had ‘served on the front lines in directly confronting the dangers of the 21st century’.

He lauded the victims as ‘part of a long line of patriots who have made great sacrifices for their fellow citizens and for our way of life’.

Yet the previous day he had blasted ‘systemic failures’ in the CIA and other US intelligence agencies for failing to prevent the Christmas Day syringe bomb attack.

‘One day the President is pointing the finger and blaming the intelligence services, saying there is a systemic failure,’ said one agency official. ‘Now we are heroes. The fact is that we are doing everything humanly possible to stay on top of the security situation. The deaths of our operatives shows just how involved we are on the ground.'

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[melancholy]

Star Nut,

0b0z0’s demise isn’t worth one American life. Yet you’re looking forward to the death of many millions of Americans killed, injured, sickened to eventual death, and the total destruction of the USA, just not to be what you always are: OUTRAGEOUSLY BORING!

You should be kicked out of FR, even out of the country!

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

I'm sure you're forgetting that this is an event that cost seven rank-and-file members of our own intelligence community their lives. While I think there are many segments of the government that are "against" the American people, I don't the intelligence community has ever given any cause to be ranked among them.

No, just as I don't miss that there were a lot of innocent people (having nothing to do with Islam or its thinking) who were killed in the 9/11 attack.

Islam is on its third major "push" since it's start, and it's not going to stop this war on the west, until we declare war on Islam and defeat it once again.

Now..., it's not that one would want this to happen -- in the first place -- but rather, that even our own government (and our own conservatives in government) have already told us that there is going to be another major terrorist attack on this country that will get through that will be worse than 9/11 (or perhaps on an equal scale). They have already told us that this is not a matter of "if" -- but a guaranteed certainty that it will happen and it's only a matter of "when".

Thus, given that it's going to happen, and no matter the fact that many innocents get killed, it's much better to shake up the Democrats and have this attack now, rather than having it later, in a Republican Administration (and I know we'll have a Republic Administration later... :-) ...).

[MizSterious]

I would love it if Obama ticked them off badly enough for them to leak the blocked Obama documents—birth certificate first and foremost.

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

Just salivating for that are you? An apocalyptic "reformation" in thinking as you might envision it, perhaps?

Are you insane?

Nope, it's just a matter of reality. Our own government, during the Bush Administration and many of those officials have already told us that it's not a matter of "if" this kind of major terrorist attack occurs -- but rather -- it's a matter of "when" -- because they say it's guaranteed it's going to happen. That's why our government has been making preparations for the major disruption that this kind of attack is going to cause, since in the Bush Administration. They know it's going to happen.

I'm just saying that it should happen, being that they know it is going to happen, during a Democrat Administration, to shake up those people to reality. If it happens during a Republican Administration, they'll remain asleep and simply blame the Republicans for it.

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

Have you lost your mind?

If your wish comes true and this is one of the bloodiest presidencies whose blood are you willing to shed? Mine? My sons? My 2 grandkids? Which city are you willing to sacrifice

If you want to stand in line to be first go right ahead.

I am not willing to lose any of them just so the country can have a wakeup call.

The wakeup call is going to come, in any case. There's no question about it, even as our own conservative party has told us continuously, when Bush was President. They have already told us that it's not a matter of "if" -- but that it's a matter of "when".

I'm saying that the "when" should be during a Democrat Administration...

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

0b0z0’s demise isn’t worth one American life. Yet you’re looking forward to the death of many millions of Americans killed, injured, sickened to eventual death, and the total destruction of the USA, just not to be what you always are: OUTRAGEOUSLY BORING!

We've already been told by our own people that this is going to happen. And I also agree with their assessment (with the Bush Administration and his officials) who have said that it's not a matter of "if" -- but only a matter of "when".

And as I've already said, that since we're talking about Islam being guaranteed to attack us again with a major attack and succeed (as our own officials have told us, repeatedly) -- it's better that this kind of thing happen sooner than later. It's all the quicker that we get to the business of attacking Islam and putting them back where they were before, instead of their third major push on Western civilization since they began.

I would even recommend a pre-emptive attack on Islam, if the U.S. and the Western Powers would do it, just like Israel has had to do in the past, too, in order to save itself from devastating losses.

We should do a pre-emptive attack on Islam and gut its ability to attack the West like it's been doing and is going to continue to do until it gets that devastating attack that our own officials tell us is going to happen.

However, I don't think we will launch any such pre-emptive attack on Islam, so I al left with the only other alternative, which is to wait for them to succeed in their own devastating attack, since this country does not really want to go to war with Islam and eliminate its threat on Western society.

[Frantzie]

British intel does and I am sure the French, Germans and a few others do.

For all these “24” groupies who think the CIA is so great - they let a Muslim Brotherhood (Saudi financed) agent take over your country.

I feel very bad for the 7 people who died but their co-workers and ex-co-workers know the score. They did nothing.

[melancholy]

It couldn’t happen to a better President, than to happen on Obama’s watch that the Muslims attack the U.S. relentlessly. And I hope the Islamic terrorists make Obama’s watch one of the bloodiest and worst presidencies in the history of U.S. Presidents — from Muslims... Nothing better could happen on Obama’s watch — in order to shake people’s thinking up, in regards to “Obama-think” — than to have a massive Islamic terrorist attack on the U.S., and bomb several U.S. cities with nukes...

[emphasis mine].

You also wrote FReeper agamemnon:

I'm just saying that it should happen, being that they know it is going to happen, during a Democrat Administration, to shake up those people to reality. If it happens during a Republican Administration, they'll remain asleep and simply blame the Republicans for it.

[emphasis mine].

If you don't realize what you're saying and keep arguing about it.......Democrat......Republican...etc. YOU WILL NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP!

Yep, you'll shake the five people left in the country to the core!

You need a straight jacket and a new screen name to go with it. Straight Jacketed would be just about right.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

I am a true believer in ‘not if, but when.’

That being said, there is another part of me that says if I resign myself to that fact nothing we can say, nothing we can do will make a difference.

[Pollster1]

I’m wondering how it got out in the first place that they were all CIA and what their mission there was.

The moron in our White House announced it. Any of our previous presidents would have represented the dead as State Department or some other part of the government, at least in public. The terrorists would have gotten a little bit of credit for killing some infidels, and it would have been a small loss. Instead, Obama officially confirmed what the terrorists probably suspected but couldn't have proven to potential recruits - that they got some genuine American spies - and I have no doubt that Al Qaeda recruiters will do much better as a result of Obama having once again acted stupidly.

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

Yep, you'll shake the five people left in the country to the core!

You need a straight jacket and a new screen name to go with it. Straight Jacketed would be just about right.

Hiding your head in the sand won't change the situation with Islam. They're on a major push, Islam will continue attacking and we've already been assured by even our own people (during the Bush Administration) that another (and a major attack) is going to happen and it's not a matter of "if" -- but simply a matter of "when". They have made the assessment that it's guaranteed. They've said it repeatedly, with different officials. And knowing the situation with Islam, I'm in 100% agreement with these Bush Administration officials who have told us this in the past.

Now, I don't believe Obama is saying this, now..., but during the Bush Administration, they sure did. And I tend to believe the Bush Administration more on this score than I believe the Obama Administration.

So, all the hiding out you want to do isn't going to change the minds of these Islamics and keep them from this major and catatrophic attack. Our own government is making preparations for how to handle several major cities being successfully attacked..., either by nukes or by a major biological attack. The government has already had many meetings on the issue of how to handle it.

It seems that you're "out of the loop" here...

Get with it and get ready for it to happen... or else... we might do a pre-emptive attack on Islam first and make it so that they can't wage war against the West any more (at least for a few hundred years or more, until they "go at it again, like they've done two times before, this time being the third time).

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

That being said, there is another part of me that says if I resign myself to that fact nothing we can say, nothing we can do will make a difference.

The Bush Administration wasn't one to keep from doing things to prevent this sort of thing -- but even so -- they made it clear that it was only a matter of time before it happened.

They made it clear by saying that we might be successful in preventing their attacks 99 times, but it only takes just one time when they're successful in doing this -- that we see it.

Thus, they were indicating (in so many words) that we'll keep doing the prevention, but the numbers are against us in the long run, thus that's why they said it was certain that one major attack (of the scale of the 9/11 attacks, and they've mentioned nuclear and biological) was going to get through.

I'm sure you're heard the Bush Administration officials say it several times that all that has to happen is that they succeed one time, where we have to succeed all the time... It never works that way that you (or the government) and our agencies will succed all the time.

It's going to come... and so, I would just advise that people be prepared for it by looking up how to handle oneself during either a nuclear attack or a biological attack and take those appropriate measures ahead of time.

[melancholy]

Hiding your head in the sand won't change the situation with Islam.

You are a hopeless case! Don't change the subject and stop talking from your derriere. We all know what the Islamics want to do to us, the worst.

You know very well that's not the point. It's your wishy hopey thingy of getting our cities nuked to achieve whatever political end, sickoooooo!

As I can see, FReepers wiser than me stopped answering you already. They must know that talking to a nut will get nowhere...I’ll join them.

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

You know very well that's not the point. It's your wishy hopey thingy of getting our cities nuked to achieve whatever political end, sickoooooo!

That's precisely the point, that you're hiding your head in the sand and pretending that it's not going to happen -- all the while, the Bush Administration officials telling you that it is going to happen, guaranteed. It's only a matter of time. You're the one who is ignoring that one, and pretending that if you don't talk about it or think about it, that it won't happen...

I agree with the Bush Administration in what it said in that we have to be successful 100% of the time to prevent the disastrous attack from happening. But, all the terrorist have to be -- is successful only once -- for this to happen. They can fail repeatedly and so many times over again, that y'all can pat yourselves on the back for the great successes you've been having in preventing a major disastrous attack.

But, with Islam, they just have to get only "one" through and they've succeeded, even thought they've failed maybe 500 times before.

That's the reasoning that you want to hide your head in the sand to get away from. I think it's you who should be considering therapy for not facing up to the reality that is coming...

And with the fact that one is going to get through, sooner or later, it's much better for it to be Democrat rather than Republican, because then the Democrats will be forced to "face up to reality" -- that they wouldn't be forced to face up to if it were a Republican in office.

[Agamemnon]

Nope, it's just a matter of reality. Our own government, during the Bush Administration and many of those officials have already told us that it's not a matter of "if" this kind of major terrorist attack occurs -- but rather -- it's a matter of "when" -- because they say it's guaranteed it's going to happen.

Nuclear terror is inevitable? And the Bush Administration as a matter of official statements said so? Another act of terror most certainly was predicted and the Administration said it would occur and it has, as Ft. Hood illustrates this as does the underpants bomber attempt. But nuclear?

Bush never predicted such a thing would happen with any amount of certainty and your salivating after the thought that it would ever occur for such expedient purposes and political ends places you squarely in the company of the certifiably insane.

Chugging down all that Salem Kirban, Hal Lindsay, Jack van Impe, and all the end-timer Y-2-K style histrionics will render you a completely ineffective conservative.

I'm just saying that it should happen, being that they know it is going to happen, during a Democrat Administration, to shake up those people to reality. If it happens during a Republican Administration, they'll remain asleep and simply blame the Republicans for it.

No you are not "just sayin'" -- you are offering it up as a viable plan for effecting some earthshaking conservative ascendancy and realignment, while the nation becomes poisoned in fall out, millions die needlessly and you think you'll be able to just sit back on your self-satisfied fat ass with a smirk telling everybody "see I told you so."

You write like you think you'd be avoiding the catastrophe you'd be content to visit upon others in order to make some sort of mass political epiphany come to pass.

Tell you what. You can terrorize Obama all by yourself. Just draw some nuclear attention to yourself by blowing yourself up with your own home-made, garage-forged nuke. Kind of like: You "glow" first. How 'bout it?

Let the re-alignment begin.

[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

Nuclear terror is inevitable? And the Bush Administration as a matter of official statements said so? Another act of terror most certainly was predicted and the Administration said it would occur and it has, as Ft. Hood illustrates this as does the underpants bomber attempt. But nuclear?

They didn't get real specific except for the fact that another major attack was inevitable, because we cannot prevent 100% of the attacks all the time. It's going to come, sooner or later. But, it was mentioned that it could be nuclear and/or biological, plus a few other kinds, too. There are government documents out there, for action, on how to prepare for this thing that is coming up and our government (at least during the Bush Administration) was making preparations for it. It's in the works. I don't know if the Obama Administration is still making those same kinds of plans or not, right now.

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You write like you think you'd be avoiding the catastrophe you'd be content to visit upon others in order to make some sort of mass political epiphany come to pass.

No..., I figure that I've got just as good a chance as anyone else in getting caught in that kind of thing. I've flown on planes and I figure that I've got as good a chance as anyone else to get bombed out of the sky as you or the next person does. I've ridden on trains and there was one time that there was a guy taken off the train (on a long-distance ride on the Southwest Chief) because he said that there was a bomb on board and he pulled the emergency stop and everyone was diving out of the train when it stopped... [that was a sight to behold, too...]

And I can be shopping in the shopping center and it can be bombed by a guy walking around with a terrorist bomb-belt on him and I can get nailed just as quick as the next guy.

All that can happen and it makes no difference at all to reocgnizing the fact that we're going to have another major terrorist attack succeed, just like our own conservatives in government were telling us during this last administration. Considering how this present administration is handling things, I would say it's a lot more likely now...

You see..., it's not been me who has been the "authority" behind the statement that's it is going to happen. It's been our own people telling us this, and many seem to want to ignore it.

Now, if it's going to happen, then it's much better for it to happen sooner than later, for one thing. And for another thing, it's much better for it to happen during a Democrat Administration rather than a Republican.

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Tell you what. You can terrorize Obama all by yourself. Just draw some nuclear attention to yourself by blowing yourself up with your own home-made, garage-forged nuke. Kind of like: You "glow" first. How 'bout it?

I'm not the one who is at war with the West. It's Islam that is at war with the West, so sorry..., you've got the "wrong idealogy" for engaging in terrorist attacks if you think I'm inclined to do so... LOL...

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

The Taliban hit it out of the park while obama eats sno-cones, catches a movie and plays with Flipper. As Brit Hume said, it was a very good week for the Taliban.

Afghan suicide bomber kills seven CIA agents after attacking base http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6972266.ece

Taliban bomber wrecks CIA’s shadowy war
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6974081.ece

CIA caught in dirty and secretive war against al-Qaeda on Afghan border
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6972940.ece

Western troops accused of executing 10 Afghan civilians, including children
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6971638.ece

Afghans turn to Taleban justice as insurgents set up shadow government
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6970962.ece

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2419388/posts

Is this the thread you were thinking of?

[melancholy]

Tell you what. You can terrorize Obama all by yourself. Just draw some nuclear attention to yourself by blowing yourself up with your own home-made, garage-forged nuke. Kind of like: You "glow" first. How 'bout it?

That would be stinky beyond belief, a real DIRTY bomb, eh?

[LucyT]

Read #11.

Read #11.

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