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White House Says (Panty Bomber) Terror Clues Were Missed but Saw No 'Smoking Gun'
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 3, 2010 | Yochi J. Deazen

Posted on 01/03/2010 11:22:45 AM PST by Zakeet

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Article: Neither the Big Wee Wee nor Janet Incompetano could see a smoking gun anywhere in these terror clues

Note: FWIW, I agree with King Klutz. Personally, I doubt if anybody in this bevel of boobies could find their *$$ in the dark with both hands sewn in their back pockets.

1 posted on 01/03/2010 11:22:45 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
"There is no smoking gun," Mr. Brennan

Beacuse thay may of been too busy smoking something else.


2 posted on 01/03/2010 11:24:48 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Zakeet
Someone needs to tell Mr superman that you get a smoking gun AFTER it is fired.

What an idiot.


3 posted on 01/03/2010 11:26:00 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

yep...the only smoking gun acceptable to the 0-crew is plane and body parts strewn over a heavily populated area.

then...and only then...will the reactively act


4 posted on 01/03/2010 11:28:31 AM PST by mreerm
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To: Zakeet
Brennan was briefed in October.
They ALL knew in advance.

Obviously, the bomber was given a GREEN LIGHT from the Oval Office.

Dr. Krauthammer: “Obama reassured the nation that this "suspect" had been charged. Reassurance? The
president should be saying: We have captured an enemy combatant -- an illegal
combatant under the laws of war: no uniform, direct attack on civilians -- and now to
prevent future attacks, he is being interrogated regarding information he may have about
al-Qaeda in Yemen.
Instead, Abdulmutallab is dispatched to some Detroit-area jail and immediately lawyered
up. At which point -- surprise! -- he stops talking.

This absurdity renders hollow Obama's declaration that "we will not rest until we find all
who were involved." Once we've given Abdulmutallab the right to remain silent, we have
gratuitously forfeited our right to find out from him precisely who else was involved,
namely those who trained, instructed, armed and sent him.

This is all quite mad even in Obama's terms. He sends 30,000 troops to fight terror
overseas, yet if any terrorists come to attack us here, they are magically transformed from
enemy into defendant.

The logic is perverse. If we find Abdulmutallab in an al-Qaeda training camp in Yemen,
where he is merely preparing for a terror attack, we snuff him out with a Predator -- no
judge, no jury, no qualms. But if we catch him in the United States in the very act of mass
murder, he instantly acquires protection not just from execution by drone but even from
interrogation. “


5 posted on 01/03/2010 11:28:40 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Zakeet

Well, there WAS a pair of smoking panties.


6 posted on 01/03/2010 11:29:40 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: mreerm
then...and only then...will the reactively act

That is actually a more beneficial scenario for Zero and crew. then they can claim some sort of mechanical malfunction.

7 posted on 01/03/2010 11:30:33 AM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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“then...and only then...will the reactively act”

Sure, as long as he can’t claim it was a lone extremist & the terrorists weren’t trying very hard. Otherwise it’s “the system worked”.


8 posted on 01/03/2010 11:30:56 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Diogenesis
lol!!


9 posted on 01/03/2010 11:32:45 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Zakeet
No ?

What's next from the Department of Homeland Insecurity;
Women will have to check their undies at the gate for inspection and
men have to wear short Kilts to flash the TSA inspectors?


10 posted on 01/03/2010 11:32:47 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Diogenesis
Obviously, the bomber was given a GREEN LIGHT from the Oval Office.

This is not possible, because there is far too much likelihood that, had the attack been successful, it would have pulled the Prez off the golf course.

11 posted on 01/03/2010 11:32:53 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Zakeet
What?
12 posted on 01/03/2010 11:35:25 AM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne(Obama=Treason))
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
The Obama administration on Sunday acknowledged that U.S. intelligence agencies missed some red flags that could have helped unravel the plot to bomb a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day, but said there had been no single "smoking gun" indicating that the attack was coming.

The terrorist was on a watch list but not a no fly list. The father of the terrorist went to American Authorities at the Embassy and reported his fears about his son.

What the hell does Janet Incompetino want? Perhaps the father should have sent a notarized statement cosigned by the pope that said, "my son is planning to blow an American plane out of the sky." Would that rise to the level of a smoking gun?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 posted on 01/03/2010 11:37:42 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; All

14 posted on 01/03/2010 11:41:07 AM PST by Zakeet (America needs ObamaCare like Helen Thomas needs a Halloween mask)
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re: “no smoking gun”

Liberalism has resulted in so many dishonest, incompetent dolts rising to high positions (not to mention all the medium and lower positions) in govt and media, that none will recognize how asinine this kind of statement is.

First, the very metaphor of a “smoking gun” is about finding evidence AFTER a crime has been committed.

For intel and counter-terrorism, the whole point is to be able to detect and/or block terrorists and terrorist attacks BEFORE they occur!!!!

It would be nice if one could always have such specific knowledge of future terror plots and specific acts such as “this jihadist is going to board a plane at this time etc.”

Libs now change the “standard” of media and public judgment, as they always do, as the scummy hypocrites we have come to know...... with 9/11 it was “omg, a CIA briefing which stated the obvious that every sentient creature in the world had known for years, that Al Qaeda hoped somewhere, somehow, someday to attack US aircraft and people.”

Wow, that’s really the “smoking gun” that should have stopped 9/11 [of course we know there were things that should have been put together in time, but they were stuck in the bureaucracies mainly b/c of Clintonista policies about “the Wall” etc.

In this case, the Obamanation totally “owns” this problem and we should not need or hope to always have any more specific knowledge than we had in this case...... the guy’s dad WENT TO Nigerian intel who brought him to the CIA station chief, and from what I read it wasn’t as vague as the Obambi apologists try to make it out..... sure the father did not know of a specific plot, but he did know the son was radicalised as a jihadist, had dropped out of sight in Yemen, had a “final” phone conversation with the family in which the father was told they would never speak again etc. Assuming even a fraction of what has been reported as known overall about the guy in advance may be true, there was ample reason to ensure he could never openly fly to or visit the USA in any way. If anyone (in the know) had given even a moment’s thought to what it takes for a Muslim father (or just about any parent in the world) to “report” their son in that way to a “foreign” intel service, Good Heavens, that could only meant that the father believed in his heart that his son was swept up in terror preparations.... and how would the family know any particulars????? it’s a crazy lack of judgment on the part of ppl. who handled this info.

The guy is NOT a US citizen..... we didn’t have to allow him to fly here at all, and “we knew” quite enough to have strong reason to keep him out..... oh, wait, Barney Frank and his pals made it nearly impossible to block Visas for almost any reason at all..... so any State Dept. or intel person who stuck his/her neck out to keep this guy out would have been in deep doo doo with the politically correct charlatans who are in charge.

This “standard” that someone has to be known to be plotting a specific terror attack in order to be kept out of the USA is absurd and dangerous. If Brennan is supposed to be one of the “best” counter-terrorist ppl with the Obamanation then we really are in deep deep doo-doo.... but then we all knew that already.


15 posted on 01/03/2010 12:02:35 PM PST by Enchante (Do we really send captured TERRORISTS off to Saudi-land and Yemen so they can be "REHABILITATED"?)
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To: Enchante
Is it at all possible to gain enough seats in the 2010 elections to impeach this impostor?
16 posted on 01/03/2010 12:07:16 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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Sounds and looks like Obama, in the Indian tradition, drinks his own urine.


17 posted on 01/03/2010 12:08:57 PM PST by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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To: Zakeet

Well damn. Just last Thursday they were saying it was the sole fault of the CIA.

Or did I dream about the reliable source who told CNN that a memo sat on a desk at Langley and if they had shared it, maybe Tighty-Whitey Terrorist would have been kept off of the plane?

I wish I had thought to document the different versions coming from the administration.


18 posted on 01/03/2010 12:18:42 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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“said there had been no single “smoking gun” indicating that the attack was coming.”

More disinformation coming out of the White House. There was a news report a few days ago that said that a top official had been briefed in the White House about the underpants bomber a few months prior to the attack. Barry and Rahm are still in denial mode. It is no surprise that Barry does not take this seriously considering that he’s still close with his Domestic Terrorist friend Bill Ayers.


19 posted on 01/03/2010 12:25:26 PM PST by purplelobster
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To: Zakeet
Let me tell you about my New Year's Day flight from Atlanta to Seattle. We're waiting at the gate area and here comes this (what looked like to me) tall American Black women all bedecked out in the usual female Muslim gear, you know, the silk headscarf and covered from neck to ankle with nice looking clothing (I don't know what they call it). Anyway, she waltzes up to the counter, gets a seat assignment, walks around the whole seating area looking for a seat. She had a tad of an attitude but maybe it was just me. The whole crowd looks like, "Oh Jesus, now what do we do?" Then a bearded Sikh guy (fwiw he "felt" okay, but who knows) waltzes up to the counter with his family - anyway he had that Sikh turban thingy on - and gets a seat assignment.

We just so happen were in the last row of the plane, 44, and the Muslim gal was 3 seats ahead of us, the Sikh guy was 2 seats ahead of us on the other side. I'm wondering, did they both get a crotch search? A total cavity search? I knew they hadn't, so it was tension city all the way to Seattle. Did anyone talk with them, interview them, like the Israelis do? I'm sweating bullets when she went to the bathroom. I honest to God almost didn't get on the plane. . .

Anyway, we made it, but unless things change, it's just a matter of time until 300 men, women and children get killed. There were a lot of kids on the plane. . .

20 posted on 01/03/2010 12:54:38 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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