Troy our pastor went to one of those Saddleback “church growth/marketing” conferences and since we have adopted the Church of Laodicia’s church model or the “seeker” movement strategies that Rick teaches, our church’s attendance has gone from 3,000 to 1,500 and have a ton of debt. Thanks Rick for spreading your social gospel to the world!
We are in the political and spiritual mess we are in because the Church is not being the Church. We are trying to be like everyone else and doing a fine job accomplishing it.
Oh but you have to take a survey to find out what people want to hear in your church, you must be doing something wrong! Just keep on despite the fact that mature solid Christians are leaving. Rick says that some people are going to have to die or leave. And Chuck Mcalister and Dan Southerland say those people are just leaders from hell anyway. You want the new immature and/or false converts to come in so you can shape them the way you want them, to be yes-men for the pastor and not preach a gospel that’s too offensive for the natural man to hear. After all if you don’t get them in the church they’ll never hear the gospel right? because we sure don’t want to teach our church members how to actually explain to the people they come in contact with in their lives DURING THE WEEK the wrath of God, sin, hell, the blood atonement, and the death to self that comes from surrendering one’s life to Christ’s Lordship.
/sarcasm
are you by chance a Free Methodist?
Same thing in my PCA church...