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LA Times: Hawaii is far from an economic paradise
LA Times ^ | January 2, 2010 | By Alana Semuels

Posted on 01/02/2010 7:22:57 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Seems odd with American states being so far away the state would rely upon them; well they didn't before 2007. They relied upon Japan tourists as well. Theres a higher rate of smoking in Japan then USA; yet lower lung cancer. They can't blame Obama for the unwelcoming atmosphere witnessed by these guests. It doesn't meet the agenda, of blaming someone else, not themselves usually works.

It is critical to note that after years of steady increases in growth (except for 9/11), the first drop in Japanese tourist numbers occurred in January 2007, just a month after the start of our smoking ban. This was the catalyst that began Hawaii's march off the economic cliff and the resulting bankruptcies and unemployment hikes. more

In January 2007, just one month later, the slide began, way before today's convenient excuses of airline closures, fuel charges, mortgage meltdowns, exploding gas prices and the plummeting dollar, just to name a few. Sadly, we are now nearing the 24th month of consecutive decline in Japan numbers. Isn't it odd that Japan outbound tourism is up more than 5 percent? They're going somewhere. Hello! The painting rosy of a bad picture by the Hawaii Tourism Authority is laughable. Do we look that stupid? It's like spray painting a pile of poo with pink paint hoping nobody recognizes what it really is. more

Hawaii is very dependent on Japanese tourism for the success of its hospitality industry and even for its general economy. Japanese outgoing tourism is up by 5% at the same time that Hawaii's incoming Japanese tourism is down by 7%. podcast

Just for your information:
HB1825 of 2007 Smoking ban on the beach and in the parks was successfully repelled on Tuesday February 27, 2007. No Media coverage of course, why would they let people know the bullet they just dodged. source

21 posted on 01/02/2010 8:49:19 AM PST by starzed_
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Article says unemployment rate in Hawaii is 7%! And THEY are complaining? California would love to have such a low rate.


22 posted on 01/02/2010 8:53:58 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every time there is a thread about Hawaii the “Experts” come out of the woodwork to tell us all how bad it is and how no one should ever want to go there.

News Flash: Spending a week in a hotel somewhere twenty years ago does not make anyone an expert on the local economy or culture.

I lived on Oahu for thirty years and I have to tell you, I get a real laugh out of the “My Hawaiian name is Lay-Lonnie” clowns trying to tell all the haoles in America why vacationing in the Catskills is so much better. I am shocked; SHOCKED! I tell you to learn that there are poor neighborhoods and shuttered business in Seattle... I mean Honolulu (A city of nearly 1 million) at the end of 2009


23 posted on 01/02/2010 8:59:36 AM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Hawaiian girl on the right apparently won't be needing food stamps in the near future.

Leni

24 posted on 01/02/2010 9:02:45 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Hawaiian girl on the right apparently won't be needing food stamps in the near future.

Leni

25 posted on 01/02/2010 9:07:06 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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Sorry for the double post.

I NEED A SLURPEE!

Leni

26 posted on 01/02/2010 9:08:34 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: vc79
Speaking of sacrifice, until local business make the trip to paradise worthwhile, no one is going to come. How attractive is it to travel across the planet to spent up to $300 per round of golf. Mauna Kea, a premium hotel on the Kohala coast, reopened last year after years of earthquake repair. I have been there at least ten times since then to go to the beach and have only witnessed one foursome on the links. We need to make the fun aspect a bargain to lure tourists to the islands. Airfares are not killing tourism. High cost fun is the culprit.

Spot-on and needs to be repeated!

If the cost at Mauna Kea really is $300 per round, then it's better to get $100 per round and lose only $200 rather than the full $300. People are traveling to CA and FL and other States where the tourism industry "got a clue" and cut prices. HI not so much...

27 posted on 01/02/2010 9:20:31 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How does the HOPE and CHANGE work for you... ?

:o)


28 posted on 01/02/2010 9:26:45 AM PST by traumer
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I lived in Hawaii for 40 years, moved away 10 years ago.
Hawaii now is not the Hawaii that I grew up in. The government allowed overbuilding on Oahu, and the outer islands are also slowly getting overbuilt.
The roads are congested. Everytime I visit my family, I just want to leave the state because of the congestion. It is just not relaxing, and I would not want to spend hard earned dollars on that.
There are homeless living in the parks. I witnessed an assault on a victim with a bat by someone who was high on meth at a beach park.
The crown jewel of Oahu- Kailua Beach, is also crammed full of tourists bussed in from Waikiki.
I was born and raised in Kailua- and it angers me that Zero closed off 1000 feet of beachfront property that is public access so he can have his luxury vacation.
Personally, I think the best thing for Hawaii is to have a population exodus. When the hotels empty, tear them down and create parks.


29 posted on 01/02/2010 9:58:58 AM PST by kaila
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To: silverleaf
We yanked our 10th grader out of the school where I teach and sent her to private school. Her fifth grade brother will be joining her next year.
30 posted on 01/02/2010 10:29:28 AM PST by vc79 (Commandments)
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Mainland writers are busy yaking it up about Hawaii’s ‘socialized’ health care in the wake of Mr Limbaugh’s hospital stay.

There is no ‘socialized’ health care. It’s mandated health insurance provided by employers.

Hawaii law is that employers must pay for at least half of a health insurance plan for employees who work over 20 hours per week. The State sets the minimum level of coverage, co-pays etc. There are two main providers who are basically regulated like a public utility ... so, no competition.

Health insurance cost have risen at a rapid pace for the past 20 years and this is taken out of wages as employers struggle to compete with places without this insurance mandate.

How that shakes out is that there are a lot of people who have part-time jobs (or several part-time jobs) and no private health insurance (many are forced to go on Medicaid). Employers outsource as many jobs as they can to get around paying for this mandated insurance. (In my field, employers outsource a lot of drafing, design and engineering work to Philipines, Viet Nam, India, etc).

As a result, high skill jobs are going missing and for jobs that do exist, wages are very low compared to cost of living. Shelter and food costs are very high both in absolute terms and especially compared to wages.

About 30% of people in Hawaii are on food stamps.

So, when you hear them yammering about Hawaii’s ‘socialized’ health care and how well it works out ... don’t let it pass.


31 posted on 01/02/2010 10:17:06 PM PST by Lorianne
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Yanked my daughter out at 5th grade too.
Public school system in Hawaii is really poor.

There are some good hard working people in the system (my daughters 2nd grade teacher was fantastic), but it’s swamped by underachieving family’s kids and poor attitude of many teachers and and administrators. Even the good teachers are overwhelmed by the circumstances out of their control and the heavy handed union/senority system.


32 posted on 01/02/2010 10:20:59 PM PST by Lorianne
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