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To: metmom
Metmom - "God is not an idea that He can be falsified."

LeGrande - "That is correct. God is an idea that man created. "

Metmom - First you agree that He is not an idea, then you say He is. Which is it? Is He an idea or not?

God is an idea that can't be falsified, unless it is clearly defined. Once it is clearly defined, like saying God is Omnipotent then the idea can be falsified.

God is not capable of doing *whatever He wants* which is really a inadequate man-made construct.

Then clearly God is not omnipotent, by your own admission. I apparently was under the false impression that you thought God was Omnipotent.

God cannot change and God cannot lie, to start with, so the premise that God can do everything, or anything He wants, is false, therefore any conclusions based on that will be wrong.

We are in total agreement that God cannot be omnipotent. Now you are starting to sound like a Mormon : )

Disproving God takes more that corrupted reasoning. In order for you to definitively demonstrate that there is no God, you need to know all things for all time and eternity, and everywhere, which would make you God. Since you can't do that, and aren't that knowledgeable, you by, default cannot disprove God.

You are correct. I can't prove a negative (or prove anything at all). In other words I can't disprove the possible existence of Despator (God of creation). It is only when people give that God defining characteristics that I have a shot at falsifying it. I can falsify some things : )

As it turns out though, Despator and I are good drinking buddies and he doesn't recall a JHWH around when he created everything (himself included) ex nihilo : ) Can you falsify Despator?

174 posted on 01/09/2010 5:23:59 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande; RegulatorCountry

God is omnipotent.

Messing with the definitions creates a false premise which will get you a wrong answer.

You cannot disprove God. It’s not possible. And you haven’t falsified anything, either.

Tell me, why are you so interested in disproving God and trying to dissuade people from believing in Him?

What’s it to you whether people believe or not? How is it hurting you any?


178 posted on 01/09/2010 5:42:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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