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Obama Is Told of Signs That Should Have Grounded Plot (NY Times: Obama admin blew it big time)
The New York Times ^
| Tuesday, December 29, 2009
| Peter Baker and Carl Huse
Posted on 12/29/2009 7:28:18 PM PST by kristinn
HONOLULU President Obama declared Tuesday that there had been a systemic failure of the nations security apparatus after being told about more missed signals and uncorrelated intelligence that should have prevented a would-be bomber from boarding a flight for the United States.
The president was told during a private briefing on Tuesday morning while vacationing here in Hawaii that the government had a variety of information in its possession before the thwarted bombing that would have been a clear warning sign had it been shared among agencies, a senior official said.
Two officials said the government had intelligence from Yemen before Friday that leaders of a branch of Al Qaeda there were talking about a Nigerian being prepared for a terrorist attack. While the information did not include a name, officials said it would have been evident had it been compared to information about Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the 23-year-old Nigerian charged with trying to blow up a Northwest Airlines flight to Detroit on Christmas Day.
The government also had more information about where Mr. Abdulmutallab had been and what some of his plans were.
Some of the information at the time was partial or incomplete, and it was not obvious that it was connected, the official said, but in retrospect it now appears clear that had it all been examined together it would have pointed to the pending attack. The official said the administration was increasingly confident that Al Qaeda had a role in the attack, as the groups Yemeni branch has publicly claimed.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 910america; 911forgotten; americainperil; bho4terrorists; bhoantiusa; bhochristmas; clownsincharge; dnc4theenemy; enemydomestic; flight253; husseinasleep; husseinincharge; islaminside; nationalsecurityfail; nobcbringsdeath; obama; obama4terrorists; obamaantiusa; unnaturalcitizen; wh4theenemy
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To: patriciaruth
"Maybe if we could get to the point where conservatives were calling the shots in the Republican party, then things would go better."
Maybe if a great many of the so called Republicans where voted out on both sides of the Hill, along with huge numbers of Democrats, and careful choices where made in their replacements, mostly conservative to the blood Republican candidates, along with a guy say like Duncan Hunter Sr. being elected POTUS the next time around, perhaps things could be slowly restored to some sense of stability.
The problem as usual is finding people that are well educated across the board and constitution minded. I'll leave it go at that.
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:01:28 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned....)
To: Marine_Uncle
We get those reams too. Imagine how much money could be saved if they would cut that out.
Yesterday we got a call from a chap who gave the big spiel about needing to project the budget etc for the defeat of the dems..quack quack quack....and my hubby said we have donated ( but not recently) and said just send one of the forms..then the guy started all over again with his spiel. Again my hubby said just sent the little donation form and this guy started again about needing to project the budget yak yak yak. Finally I took the phone ( which was on speaker by then) and just said to this guy,. what about just send the little form don't you get..I was hot. He said he was not trying to aggregate us but then he started on me with the spiel. I finally had it with this guy and said do you know how many requests we get in a week from RNC for donations? At least 3..and not just from you..from all sorts of organizations wanting money for who knows what. Then he tried to start his spiel again.. I lowered my voice almost to a whisper and said I just told you that you ARE ticking me off..I laid the phone down and walked away..then came back and interrupted his yakking and just hung up.
The cheek!
62
posted on
12/29/2009 9:08:58 PM PST
by
celtic gal
(For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
To: ricks_place
OMG—is he wearing a skirt?
63
posted on
12/29/2009 9:09:06 PM PST
by
two23
(You're paying for that)
To: Canedawg
Geeeeee.... maybe all of those Liberal elites who do the NYT crossword puzzle on long flights are getting a bit nervous about Obama’s lack of concern for their safety!
64
posted on
12/29/2009 9:15:28 PM PST
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: two23
looks like he let the hem down..and oh them knees.
65
posted on
12/29/2009 9:15:48 PM PST
by
celtic gal
(For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
To: mommab2003
Lone wolf, my kiester! Obama is a lone jackass pretending to be something he is incredibly UNQUALIFIED to be.
66
posted on
12/29/2009 9:16:37 PM PST
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: NonValueAdded
One could wish that Chuckie Schoooooooooooooooooooomah would have been on that plane. But that would be naughty!
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:18:19 PM PST
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: avacado
Four days later that assclown is just now being briefed on this? Please tell me I read that wrong!These officials spent the first 95 hours trying to cover their own asses. The last hour was the easiest...blame Napolitano.
68
posted on
12/29/2009 9:19:33 PM PST
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: kristinn
Given the fact that the CIA had him and the FBI might have had him I wonder what the admin really thought. This administration is playing Carter and will be treated as Carter.
69
posted on
12/29/2009 9:19:48 PM PST
by
eyedigress
( now.)
To: celtic gal
I've just been telling them off and hanging up. I now support CONSERVATIVE groups and CONSERVATIVE candidates. Sending money to the RNC only pays these people's salaries.They need YOUR money to pay themselves and maintain their cheeky D.C. lifestyles. Its all about THEM. Feeding THEM. Not the movement. CUT THEM OFF!
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:22:04 PM PST
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: kristinn
I would like to withdraw an earlier prediction, one that was made before Christmas. I opined that Obama's approval ratings would go up, simply due to his absence from DC.
Al Qaeda took care of that one.
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:22:18 PM PST
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: celtic gal
I am sorry to hear what you have had to say. It is far worse then my number of mail requests.
I am at the point where I am going to write a letter to the RNC and tell them how I feel.
I had some unkind words about fellow Freepers not voting in protest. But it is a mixed bag. I can see where they where at, and at the same time seeing the more so evil that was voted in.
This Republic is at a turn in the road. And I use those words not lightly. It has been said so many times in the past. To an extent, those that spoke them where absolutely right. They saw even far back into the 50's where things where going to go. And I was witness to it some of it even as a young boy, I got the drift somewhat from some early on local university students being supported by their families, local food stores, in how the left wing would in devious manner take control of this government.
They of course where Republicans.
But todays Republicans are not like those of the past for the most part.
And I will leave it go at that. I have to hit the rack. Do have a great upcoming day.
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:41:05 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned....)
To: patriciaruth
No--because we would not have known the real cause of the disaster, or who was resposnible for it. It is the failure of the bomb to go off that is the disaster for Obama and Napolitano, and their responses to it aren't helping to mitigate it at all!
Thank God!
73
posted on
12/29/2009 9:41:10 PM PST
by
milagro
To: April Lexington
“maybe all of those Liberal elites who do the NYT crossword puzzle on long flights are getting a bit nervous”
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I honestly dont think so.
Obozo’s drop in the polls is due to the mushy middlers and “indies” realizing they made a big boo-boo.
the diehard libruls are too stupid, too shallow, and too stubborn to admit there is anything wrong with the program.
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posted on
12/29/2009 9:45:23 PM PST
by
Canedawg
(FUBO)
To: kristinn
Wow. A total indictment from the Times, of all places.
But the real story is the apparent return of the Jamie Gorelick “wall” that we were screaming about 8 years ago. These people have learned nothing. Nothing.
75
posted on
12/29/2009 9:57:14 PM PST
by
denydenydeny
(The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
To: ricks_place
Interesting "dent" on Zer0's left knee. I wonder what that is?
76
posted on
12/29/2009 10:02:52 PM PST
by
jws3sticks
(Sarah Palin forever!)
To: kristinn
Obama has NEVER TAKEN Responsiility for Anything in his entire Decrepit Life, so BOZO will throw this off on somebody else, no matter what! The MUZZIE TERRORISTS Know they are Home Free with this Closet MUSLIM LIAR Protecting Them and Forbidding the American Security to Profile MUSLIMS, Prosecute Muslims, or in anyway Look Crosseyed at a MUSLIM!! This Policy is KILLING Our Brave Soldiers in Afghanistan and will KILL US Here in AMERICA!! While the Freakin’ KENYAN IDIOT SNORKELS in OAHU in between Golf Games and Basketball Games and Games with Reggie “LOVE!”
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posted on
12/29/2009 10:56:03 PM PST
by
True Republican Patriot
(May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
To: Canedawg
The KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT LIES SO MUCH! That he believes his own CRAP! The Muslim Terrorist Perpetrator told Authorities there was an Multitude of Suicide Bombers coming after AMERICA and the JACKASS TELEPROMPTER READER PRETENDS That NO OTHER MUSLIM TERRORISTS EXIST!! OBOZO totally Ignores The Intelligence and Fires Anyone Who tells the TRUTH!! Sounds Like OBOZO is an Aspiring Hugo CHAVEZ and CASTRO WANTABE!!
78
posted on
12/29/2009 11:01:52 PM PST
by
True Republican Patriot
(May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
To: riri
This Christmas attack will reverbarate for months. The average traveling Amercian is going to cut all air travel because:
1. He knows Muslims are getting onto planes with bombs. Thats just a fact.
2. He knows the Kenyan Muslim in the oval office doesnt give a shit if Americans get killed. Thats a fact after this demonstration of lies and lack of concern in Hawaii.
The result is higher unemployment. I was planning a trip for February for my family. We are not going, I dont need the stress of sitting next to a Mohammed with his napsack, waiting for a sign to jump on him and pound his face so that my family isn’t killed.
I guess Obamma needs to go on another apology tour and talk about how Americans suck so he can pull his base together.
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posted on
12/30/2009 1:53:07 AM PST
by
PA-RIVER
To: kristinn
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