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Anger greets Dutch queen's Christmas message
Radio Netherlands Worldwide ^ | 12/27/09

Posted on 12/27/2009 6:27:05 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Anger greets Dutch queen's Christmas message

Published on 27 December 2009 - 12:08pm

Many media experts and internet users have fiercely criticised Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands following her 2009 Christmas message.

The queen tackled subjects including virtual communication which she said actually divided people rather than bringing them closer together. Although no names were given, she was taken to be referring to social networks such as Hyves, Facebook, Twitter and to text messaging in general.

Internet expert Vincent Everts has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that the queen doesn't know what she's talking about. He argues the opposite of what she said is true.

Media academic Professor Mark Deuze agrees, believing the queen is in denial about the way society has changed. He thinks people have been drawn closer together, but on a global level rather than just locally.

One of the founders of the Hyves social network, Raymond Spanjer, has offered to open an account for the queen so she can report her experiences of the results.

Many columnists and Twitter users have complained that they were treated with contempt in the Christmas message. An estimated nine million people in the Netherlands make use of the Hyves network and a further 500,000 use Twitter.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christmas; europeanchristians; facebook; internet; netherlands; queenbeatrix; royals
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Your post was from an English professor..and you called him a “scientist”.
And he was talking about kids being “dumbed down”, which is a different matter from not having an active social life.
Dumb kids that won't study, probably have much better social lives and date a lot more girls than the smart geeks.
41 posted on 12/27/2009 8:37:22 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

More likely they’d sip juice and sit on your couch looking shy, while talking about the latest games.

I don’t think 4chan participants are quite as big in real life as they are in the internets.


42 posted on 12/27/2009 8:37:46 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: SmokingJoe
You keep your fingers in your ears and sing loud. Don't admit there are problems with a lifestyle that you likely embrace.

Bye.

43 posted on 12/27/2009 8:40:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

The dog that yelps the loudest is the one the rock hit. :-)


44 posted on 12/27/2009 8:41:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I am not even a member of social network. My own view is that these networks are dominated by teenagers.
That doesn't mean I am going to out there and claim that our kids are fat or can't do maths because of social networks.
American kids/teenagers have been fat and sucked at math for a long time. Social networks have only been around for approx 6 years. You are reaching here.
45 posted on 12/27/2009 8:47:08 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Spike Knotts

Yes, but wouldn’t it be grand if they were? A legion of Guy Fawkes-wearing lunatics running around being pestiferous.


46 posted on 12/27/2009 9:29:55 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Spike Knotts

Yes, but wouldn’t it be grand if they were? A legion of Guy Fawkes-mask wearing lunatics running around being pestiferous.


47 posted on 12/27/2009 9:30:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SmokingJoe
...you called him a “scientist”

Prove it.

I said he used scientific studies, not conducted them.

Oh, sorry, I probably didn't say it in a manner you could easily understand: teh prof uzd teh studies & stuff, LOLZ !!1!

48 posted on 12/27/2009 9:47:52 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What a spectacle. My only hope would be that someone was recording it. The Romans could scarcely have done better...and they had stadiums and lions to work with.


49 posted on 12/27/2009 9:50:27 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Wage Slave

IMHO those who spend days online at a social networking site usually don’t have much of a social life with real people so the Queen is right about what she said.


50 posted on 12/27/2009 9:56:15 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Prove it. “

From your post # 33:
“Now you can't say you've never seen scientific studies to the contrary”

said he used scientific studies, not conducted them”,/i>

Some English professor (not even a scientist himself) “used scientific studies” to prove that social networks caused teenagers to play less basketball and football, go to dances less, date girls less, see each other less, and be less sociable because they are more dumb from all the social networking they are doing?
On what planet that?
Sure ain't his planet.

51 posted on 12/27/2009 10:04:04 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bump


52 posted on 12/27/2009 10:24:18 AM PST by VOA
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To: TigerLikesRooster


One of the founders of the Hyves social network, Raymond Spanjer,
has offered to open an account for the queen so she can report her
experiences of the results.

Maybe Mr. Spanjer thinks she wants to be The Queen (bee) of the Hive (Hyves)!


53 posted on 12/27/2009 10:27:06 AM PST by VOA
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To: punchamullah

Or staying close with children who could not otherwise be engaged. Don’t lump everyone together.


54 posted on 12/27/2009 1:12:39 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin); Smokin' Joe; DJ MacWoW
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y iz evy wun tokin lik thiz?

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55 posted on 12/28/2009 12:19:37 AM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

LOL!!


56 posted on 12/28/2009 4:55:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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