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To: rabscuttle385

I won’t buy it and I do not have to tell them under the 5th amendment. And I won’t tell them. They will never force me to buy anything. They are truly dreaming.


4 posted on 12/26/2009 7:25:31 PM PST by catarac
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To: catarac

Same here. Doctors will go underground anyway, I’m prepared to barter.


6 posted on 12/26/2009 7:28:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: catarac
I won’t buy it and I do not have to tell them under the 5th amendment.

Technically, this is a tax amendment. And the courts have ruled that you have no rights in tax law - only privileges that the IRS or the courts can allow you to have - or not. What this means in tax cases generally, is that if you request a 5th amendment privilege be granted to you, you will be turned down and forced to testify against yourself, on penalty of contempt of court or worse.

And if you demand your 5th amendment rights, you will be cited for contempt of court for - get this - being frivolous.

So it's not hard to figure out how they'd treat 5th amendment issues over this healthcare bill, because if they weren't consistent with other tax cases, it would rip their racket wide open. So it ain't gonna change.

BTW, Congress is well aware of this issue of denying rights - it's why they made it a tax bill, rather than an independent law. They love it - if they had their way, everything would be a tax law.

19 posted on 12/26/2009 8:55:03 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: catarac

Good News!! The Supreme court ruled in Timothy Leary vs US that we cannot be forced to admit a crime on a tax return. Very clear. You go to jail if you don’t buy insurance? You will not be forced to admit that on a tax return unless they drop the jail time. Of course who knows that is in the bill? No one has ever read it.


20 posted on 12/27/2009 11:00:09 AM PST by catarac
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