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To: westcoastwillieg

I am astounded by the incompetence of the student and practicing attorney who both are oblivious to the fact that Barry’s parents WERE NOT MARRIED at the time of his birth because that would result in a polygamous marriage that would not be recognized by U.S. law. The British citizen, Obama Sr., had a Kenyan wife at the time of the illicit ‘marriage’ of Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. If this fact is determined to be true, then possibly the Family law in effect of a child born pretty much anywhere of a single American woman might take effect, depending on her citizenship status. The question would be whether she was a ‘citizen’ of the U.S. at the time of Barry’s birth.


153 posted on 12/26/2009 1:40:41 PM PST by RideForever
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To: RideForever

If they weren’t married, why the Dunham-Obama divorce records? Serious question, no sarcasm intended.


154 posted on 12/26/2009 2:06:37 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: RideForever
The “WERE NOT MARRIED” presumption, while that was probably not your intention, is also irrelevant. Kenya has a reasonably-sized Muslim population, in which, under Sharia law, polygamy is perfectly legal. We have no idea whether Obama Sr. registered his marriage in Kenya. There are all sorts of complications involving contracts with non-citizens. That was one of many much-discussed reasons that the founders required natural born citizenship of our president. The British were boarding U.S. ships and conscripting the sons of British citizens and subjects born in the colonies. And, while we have very few traces of Obama’s presumed life in the U.S., there is a record of Stanley Ann's divorce from Obama Sr. in Hawaii. Some suggest that was to enable the adoption of Barry by Soetoro. But, while it could bear upon whether Obama II is even a citizen, it doesn't affect natural born citizenship, which is only about where, and to whom you were born.

Obama told us who is father was. Legally, it is not our problem to prove he lied about that. In case the father is unknown, citizenship of children has been defined in some statues as descending from the mother. But statues cannot change the Constitution, “...in the country, of parents who are its citizens.” When the Constitution was written we didn't have birth certificates.

We had many interesting cases after the Viet Nam War of children born in Viet Nam with American fathers. Here there is no reason not to believe Barack II’s father is any other than who he has told us he was, and polygamy laws are unlikely to make a difference in any case. Having had a polygamous father doesn't negate the fact of Obama having a Kenyan father. Now if it were a child support issue...

157 posted on 12/26/2009 2:20:25 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: RideForever; BuckeyeTexan

Actually, the claim of polygamy isn’t really legit. He “married” the woman in Kenyan in a “tribal” ceremony which under British law (which it was at the time) is not a LEGALLY recognized marraige.


167 posted on 12/26/2009 3:21:10 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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