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To: chilltherats

I never mentioned his message but spoke to his actions but ok. Hmm, let me think. Nope. He’s still an idiot. And you know that. Comparing Graham and him is ridiculous. Graham set his visit up and went through all the proper channels. This guy had the gall to sneak across the border and then make demands on Kim. You seriously can’t think he’ll be welcomed with open arms or come within a mile of Kim.


62 posted on 12/27/2009 5:28:49 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill
Comparing Graham and him is ridiculous. Graham set his visit up and went through all the proper channels. This guy had the gall to sneak across the border and then make demands on Kim. You seriously can’t think he’ll be welcomed wit and open arms or come within a mile of Kim

You are exactly right. Its a matter of style and a thoughtful way vs a clumsy stupid approach.

67 posted on 12/27/2009 6:45:56 AM PST by plain talk
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To: bgill

Seeing Kim isn’t the point. He is making a point to the Korean Christian community and Christians around the world. That someone feels so strongly he is willing to give his life should get praise from everyone but I guess not.

He picked the wrong country I suppose and is of the wrong faith.


68 posted on 12/27/2009 7:41:12 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: bgill

Graham, by going through the “proper channels,” gave Kim legitimacy that Kim doesn’t deserve as a murderer of his people.

Reminds me of Western religious leaders visiting government-approved churches in China, instead of supporting the underground, non-government-controlled ones.


77 posted on 12/27/2009 3:26:21 PM PST by MilicaBee
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To: bgill

I’m not comparing his methods to Graham’s, and I made that clear. But the message is quite similar, which was my point and I also made that quite clear.

I agree he’s in danger and I agree his likelihood of success is nil. But none of that’s the point. Anytime somebody sacrifices his own comfort and safety to aid another worse off is worthy of not being called an idiot and whatever all other negative commentary you made about him. Our military people have certainly taken risks and so have other heroes, such as the man who lost his own life trying to save a boy who went into a heavily rushing white water river to save his dog. Nobody considering only himself would have made that jump because it was such a futile endeavor, but nevertheless he did it. Some people just march to a different drum beat, a more altruistic drum beat that doesn’t place pocketbook, safety and comfort before all else.

Lack of seasoned wisdom in judgment and idealistic, youthful zealousness are NOT the same thing as being an “idiot.” Nouns such as “heart” and “character” apply here, not “idiot.”


81 posted on 12/28/2009 2:12:07 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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