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Credit Crunch: Home Equity Lending Evaporates
Yahoo Finance ^ | 25 December 2009 | Adrain Sainz

Posted on 12/25/2009 9:47:28 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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I simply can not tell what is the truth any more. The government and some of the media say one thing, and conservatives here and other stories say another. What confusion!
1 posted on 12/25/2009 9:47:28 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Seems obviously a fairly bad idea to borrow against the equity of ones home value.


2 posted on 12/25/2009 9:55:13 AM PST by tflabo
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To: tflabo

It is if it’s not either a terrible emergency or something that adds greatly to the value of the home. Usually folks treated HELOCs as piggy banks for luxuries and vacations.


3 posted on 12/25/2009 9:57:27 AM PST by pogo101
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
They don't get it.

We all know that the rock-n-roll days of spending every cent you can aly your hands on is over.

But our moral and intellectual superiors in the Democrat/MSM-complex haven't figured it out yet.

4 posted on 12/25/2009 9:58:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The lenders do NOT trust Washington. They are smart.

And the lenders want to stay liquid with proper cash reserves.

“Houston, we have a problem in Washington.”


5 posted on 12/25/2009 10:00:08 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
My house is at least 90K underwater. Thanks, Zer0.
6 posted on 12/25/2009 10:05:41 AM PST by JPG (Al Gore, the several million degree man.)
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To: tflabo
I owned a home improvement company for 10 years(room additions, sun rooms, windows, etc.) until its sale in November 2007. Nearly all my customers used equity loans or lines of credit. Some banks were loaning 125% of appraised value. At the time, I thought it was nuts. At this stage in life I don't have a mortgage anymore and would never borrow money on my primary residence. As much as it underpinned the success of me business, it always made me uncomfortable that people were hocking thier homes.
7 posted on 12/25/2009 10:08:14 AM PST by foyen
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Thanks for posting and being here.

“I simply can not tell what is the truth any more.”

Breathe deep the gathering gloom...(music to read your post by)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dROSy-RElq0


8 posted on 12/25/2009 10:11:38 AM PST by PGalt (seek the truth)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’ve had a home equity line of credit of $15,000 for about 15 years, I’ve used it a couple of times but not in several years.

It cost me nothing to get it and interest is currently 4.5%, the account is still active, I owe nothing on it nor do I have a first mortgage.

It’s a fairly cheap line of credit....To be used responsibly.


9 posted on 12/25/2009 10:12:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: JPG

We don’t have a house, we have our home.

And you don’t bet your home for any reason.


10 posted on 12/25/2009 10:13:23 AM PST by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Those Home Equity Loans, plus the depreciation in the value of the home, is another reason the FDIC is hiring 1,500 more employees...something like an additional 600 in California alone. Expect a lot of banks to fail in 2010.


11 posted on 12/25/2009 10:15:52 AM PST by radioone (Alinskys rules for radicals: Ridicule is a better tactic than argument.)
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To: tflabo

Of course, if one owns a home worth forty eight thousand, and then developers build three or four neighborhoods full of six thousand square foot new McMansions, for which there are no buyer... then on may find one’s self suddenly owning a twenty nine thousand dollar home instead.

Which how many of us have warned about for the last three or four years?


12 posted on 12/25/2009 10:16:46 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: tflabo

Are you saying borrowing is a bad idea?


13 posted on 12/25/2009 10:20:20 AM PST by cornelis
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

LET’S LIVE FOR TODAY
Grass Roots

When I think of all the worries people seem to find
And how they’re in a hurry to complicate their mind
By chasing after money and dreams that can’t come true
I’m glad that we are different, we’ve better things to do
May others plan their future, I’m busy lovin’ you (1-2-3-4)
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We were never meant to worry the way that people do
And I don’t need to hurry as long as I’m with you
We’ll take it nice and easy and use my simple plan
You’ll be my lovin’ woman, I’ll be your lovin’ man
We’ll take the most from living, have pleasure while we can (2-3-4)
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And don’t worry ‘bout tomorrow, hey, hey, hey
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Baby, I need to feel you inside of me
I got to feel you deep inside of me
Baby please come close to me
I got to have you now, please, please, please
Gimme some-a lovin’, gimme some-a lovin’
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Baby gimme some-a lovin’
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Gimme some-a lovin, I need all your lovin’
Give me some love, now
I need all your lovin’
Sha la la la la la
Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for today
Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for today
And don’t worry ‘bout tomorrow, hey, hey, hey
Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for today.


14 posted on 12/25/2009 10:21:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

[The government and some of the media say one thing, and conservatives here and other stories say another. What confusion! ]

I do commercial real estate and business brokerage. What I know is that businesses always (Always!) cook the books. So, you always have to do your own analysis, write your own estimated P&L and balance sheet to get an idea what a property or business is worth.

The government is nothing but a big business. No matter what they are telling you, you have to look at what the real numbers must be. When I do that analysis of our government I don’t see anything but red ink as far as the eye can see. The amount of revenues conceivably possible from tax revenues cannot sustain unfunded labilities in SS and medicare, and we know Fannie and Freddy are BK and now sitting on the Feds books. It goes on and on.

In short,I don’t think we can believe a word that the gov and media are telling us because the numbers simply do not add up. While this is scary as hell, it is also a potential opportnity. If you are smart enough to hunker down now, you will survive and perhaps even prosper. But if you run onto the newly exposed beach to collect seashells after an earthquake, don’t be surprised when the tsunami hits.


15 posted on 12/25/2009 10:22:11 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: pogo101

This goes right along with the ‘re-fi’ folks who believed what goes up, never comes down.

I can’t count the number of sob stories I’ve heard which somewhere include the phrase”took the equity out when we refinanced”.


16 posted on 12/25/2009 10:23:07 AM PST by maine yankee
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Tell the truth about what, if you have bought in the past 10 years you are most likely underwater.
17 posted on 12/25/2009 10:30:05 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Who knew home values wouldn’t skyrocket forever and ever...?/s


18 posted on 12/25/2009 10:43:24 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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I simply can not tell what is the truth any more. The government and some of the media say one thing, and conservatives here and other stories say another. What confusion!

When it's pie in the sky and sugar plums and dancing girls for all at no additional cost vs. a bitter pill, which would you tend to believe?

19 posted on 12/25/2009 10:49:32 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: tflabo
Yes and no.

NO, because bankruptcy can eliminate unsecured debt.

YES, because:

The interest becomes tax deductible.
The payments can be spread over SEVERAL years, which might increase cash flow to invest or pay down other expenses.
The interest will be very low, compared to unsecured or revolving debt.

20 posted on 12/25/2009 10:52:24 AM PST by Kansas58
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