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How George W. Bush Redefined American Freedom
Campaign for Liberty ^ | 2009-12-24 | James Bovard

Posted on 12/24/2009 5:02:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Bokababe
And all you Paulies do is parrot the DNC talking points against Bush.

Bush stood up for America, the first in three decades. Or don't you realize they have been attacking us for that long, twice on our own soil?

Three times now with Ft. Hood.

Caret and Clinton were much worse than Bush, but their party circled the wagons around them. They have respected legacies now.

Their dirty congressmen had the wagons circled around them and nearly all are still in office.

Many of you couldn't wait to expel any Republican that you could find dirt on and they are gone, replaced by weaker candidates.

If the GOP needs no help in destroying itself, then move on and build your libertarian party that hasn't captured the publics eye in four decades.

Stop proclaiming yourselves conservative because you are much more liberal than you imagine, especially aligning yourselves with and parroting the crap spewed by the anti-war leftists.

And again I'll ask, since you all hate the GOP so much, why are you still in it? Why did Paul run as a Republican instead of the libertarian he is?

You only fool yourself, no one else.

61 posted on 12/24/2009 7:00:11 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: rabscuttle385; DakotaRed; Bokababe; gusopol3
Great reply, you are killing me.

Palin's own words: 'Amazing we did as well as we did'

Q. Why do you think your campaign lost?
A. I think the Republican ticket represented too much of the status quo, too much of what had gone on in these last eight years, that Americans were kind of shaking their heads like going, wait a minute, how did we run up a 10 trillion dollar debt in a Republican administration? How have there been blunders with war strategy under a Republican administration? If we're talking change, we want to get far away from what it was that the present administration represented and that is to a great degree what the Republican Party at the time had been representing. So people desiring change I think went as far from the administration that is presently seated as they could. It's amazing that we did as well as we did.

62 posted on 12/24/2009 7:02:02 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So Saddam Hussein didn’t violate the Desert Storm peace treaty hundreds of times and try to kill President George H.W. Bush?"

Bush's daddy should have taken out Saddam Hussein the in the first Gulf War. We actually had a principled leg to stand on back then -- we were defending the concept of national sovereignty (of Kuwait).

But we had absolutely no sane reason to attack Iraq in 2001 -- especially immediately after 9/11, when we should have been concerned real direct threats to us which Iraq was not.

So Osama and the Taliban weren’t based in Afghanistan?

You never start a war until you know what you want to accomplish and how to accomplish it -- eight years later, we're still trying to figure out both of those things in Afghanistan. That's insane.

And which enemy holds the deed and is going to just walk in and take over?

China and Russia are holding most of our enormous debt. Saudis are also holding some of it. Any of those sound like "America's friends" to you?

63 posted on 12/24/2009 7:02:50 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385
George W. Bush is gone from Washington but his legacy, like an abandoned toxic waste dump, lingers on.

Ya know, this is a bit harsh .-.. --- .-..

64 posted on 12/24/2009 7:02:50 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: rabscuttle385
If it were destroyed, you Paulies wouldn't be planning your take over and doing everything in lockstep to finish it off so you can take it over.

All you do is empower your friends, the liberals.

Pathetic and pitiful.

But explain, since you proclaim the GOP dead, why are you still in it? If it is so screwed up, why are you still in it? If we are all whiners, why do you remain in it?

Pull your head back out and see the sunshine.

65 posted on 12/24/2009 7:04:43 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed; Bokababe
Bush stood up for America, the first in three decades.

Are you saying that Reagan didn't stand up for America, or are you just unable to count properly?

Thirty years prior to Bush 2001-2009 = 1971-1979

66 posted on 12/24/2009 7:05:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Bokababe

“You never start a war until you know what you want to accomplish and how to accomplish it”

Never studied WW2 much, did you?


67 posted on 12/24/2009 7:06:23 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: sickoflibs

So sayeth the cult master himself?


68 posted on 12/24/2009 7:07:20 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: AAABEST
Close the borders and forbid foreign Arabs (and foreign nationals from other hostile areas) between the ages of 15 and 50 from entering the country. Problem solved.

Assuming this achievable, what then if terrorists acquire the means to launch nukes or bio-arms into our country or if they recruit non-Arabs to infiltrate within?

69 posted on 12/24/2009 7:09:49 PM PST by jla ("Free Republic is Palin Country" - JimRob)
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To: DakotaRed; Bokababe; sickoflibs
If it were destroyed, you Paulies wouldn't be planning your take over and doing everything in lockstep to finish it off so you can take it over.

Who said I was trying to take it over?

I thought I was one of those e-e-e-vil third-party people! /sarc

But explain, since you proclaim the GOP dead, why are you still in it?

Who said I was still a Republican?

My membership lapsed several years ago.

If we are all whiners, why do you remain in it?

Whining? You mistake mocking for whining.

Pathetic and pitiful.

Really?

What's pathetic and pitiful is a Republican Party that has nothing much to offer besides "we're not the Democrats" and "we're not as bad as the Democrats."

70 posted on 12/24/2009 7:10:00 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: DakotaRed

You mean Palin? The Palin cult?


71 posted on 12/24/2009 7:10:47 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: rabscuttle385

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/8/newsid_4268000/4268151.stm


72 posted on 12/24/2009 7:11:52 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: AAABEST
Oh, heck, that was easy.
Next problem-the economy.....oh wait. What about home grown terrorism? Or terrorism overseas? Lockerbie bombing, Lebanon, Embassies, etc.
What about destabilizing whole nations? We aren't alone anymore. Haven't been since WWI.
Maybe there might be a bit more to the problem than closing the border. Although that should have been done and needs to be done regardless of terrorism.
73 posted on 12/24/2009 7:15:25 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: DakotaRed
And again I'll ask, since you all hate the GOP so much, why are you still in it? Why did Paul run as a Republican instead of the libertarian he is? You only fool yourself, no one else.

If you look up "Liberal Interventionism" you'll find that your foreign policy outlook is completely consistent with the policy of the Democratic Party since 1992 (and pre-1968).

I am not the one who is fooling themselves as to what I am -- you are.

74 posted on 12/24/2009 7:15:50 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385
Who said I was trying to take it over?

Pitiful effort, it has been discussed widely in Ron Paul forums since 2007.

Who said I was still a Republican?

Why are you here? You don't have to be a card carrying dues paying member of the party to be a Republcian.

What's pathetic and pitiful is a Republican Party that has nothing much to offer besides "we're not the Democrats" and "we're not as bad as the Democrats."

No, the Democrats sit back and rely on your Ron Paulies to do their work for them.

But again, since you say you aren't attempting a take over and you're not a Republican, why continue to appear here to do nothing but endless bash the party you say is irrelevant and you want no part of?

Prevarication isn't your strong suit.

75 posted on 12/24/2009 7:17:47 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At this point LBJ, Clinton and Nixon are looking good...

Bush gave us the DHS... Oh the times I've seen grandma sequestered over to a private booth in DIA with a conforming nervous smile on her face to be cavity searched by Bush's legacy. What larks we'll have 'eh Pip!

Nixon gave us (and me especially) the EPA. Don't even get me started.

76 posted on 12/24/2009 7:18:42 PM PST by 3boysdad (If you respond to my post without a profile I will claim you on my tax return.)
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To: Bokababe

Sorry, but you ignore, we have been under Jihadist atatck for a long time.

Defending our nation isn’t interventionism, whether Paul likes it or not.


77 posted on 12/24/2009 7:19:46 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: 3boysdad

Then why do you keep hanging out with Republicans?

Go over to Democratic Underground where they speak your language and agree with you.


78 posted on 12/24/2009 7:21:09 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed
Why are you here? You don't have to be a card carrying dues paying member of the party to be a Republcian.

Last I checked, FR is not a Republican site.

79 posted on 12/24/2009 7:21:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: DakotaRed
"Never studied WW2 much, did you?"

What complete nonsense! Comparing a World War to our war in Afghanistan? That's looney.

Even as complicated as WWII was, we finished it half the time that we've been in Afghanistan -- and we're aren't done yet.

80 posted on 12/24/2009 7:24:57 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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