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The Prosecution of Rifqa Bary (Christian convert from Islam faces forced Muslim counseling)
American Thinker ^ | 12/24/2009 | Pamella Geller

Posted on 12/24/2009 7:13:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/24/2009 7:13:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m get the same helpless, kicked-in-the-gut feeling I had with Terry (Schiavo) Schindler. Are we really letting this happen in our country? Do we even have a country anymore?


2 posted on 12/24/2009 7:19:36 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any American citizen should have the right to choose their own religion and not be forced by the state or federal government to endure counseling on Islam when that is not their wish. Religion should be voluntary, not mandatory. Furthermore, this is a just another case of political correctness taken to extremes. We have seen what rampant political correctness has wrought like for example the murder of the four off duty police officers, the moving of the terror trials to New York instead of military tribunals, the shuttering of Gitmo, our president apologizing to everybody he meets for America and a litany of many other activities by our Congress and this president.


3 posted on 12/24/2009 7:19:53 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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Muslims have mastered using the charge of discrimination or islamophobia to accomplish their agenda. Compare this to Islamic countries where non-Muslims have no rights.


4 posted on 12/24/2009 7:25:17 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: SeekAndFind

I am praying for Rivqa! She represents so much for our country and for people of all faiths who came here to be free to worship as they see fit.


5 posted on 12/24/2009 7:29:36 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Ev Reeman
Any American citizen should have the right to choose their own religion and not be forced by the state or federal government

The last time I checked they do. But first they need to be an American citizen and second they need to not be underage.

6 posted on 12/24/2009 7:29:50 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: SeekAndFind

Great article, only it’s a PERsecution as much as it is any kind of preosecution. What’s happening to her is an outrage and it’s alarming that this kind of thing can be happening here. Thank God for the people like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and these pastors who are standing up for her. If it weren’t for them, there would be no one.


7 posted on 12/24/2009 7:31:57 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34933


8 posted on 12/24/2009 7:42:56 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: SeekAndFind
One fact you can be absolutely certain of:

If her parents were fundamentalist Christians, and she wanted to leave to become a pagan/Wiccan earth worshiper....

By Now:

She'd be free to live anywhere with anybody

The parents would be under a microscope from a dozen different “protection” agencies.

9 posted on 12/24/2009 7:56:23 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: SeekAndFind

So. . .what happens when she turns 18, and is legally an adult ? Can’t she just walk away at that point ???


10 posted on 12/24/2009 8:01:25 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: bwc2221

And then they wonder why there is a war against radical Muslim terrorists...


11 posted on 12/24/2009 8:20:58 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: SeekAndFind

More proof that Islam is the Faith of Hate and the Cult of Insanity. Nothing but pure evil

As another FReeper already mentioned....if Rifka Bary had converted to Islam from Christianity.....and the Christian parents were not happy with it....the Christian parents would have been told to stuff it...probably be arrested for abuse.

Islam is evil....those who practice it are evil....those who sit and do nothing while Islamics terrorize one and all, are evil.


12 posted on 12/24/2009 8:49:29 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Al Gore is neither a scientist (Global Warming Fraud) nor an economist (Free Trade, NAFTA))
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So. . .what happens when she turns 18, and is legally an adult ? Can’t she just walk away at that point ???

Yes, but she has to be alive to make it to 18 first. If she is turned over to her family before then there is a good chance that could happen, not necessarily by them but by local Muslim extremists who see her conversion as a terrible offense against Islam and know where they can find her.

13 posted on 12/24/2009 8:49:33 AM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: Salgak
So. . .what happens when she turns 18, and is legally an adult ? Can’t she just walk away at that point ???

She'll still be an apostate, and subject to being murdered by the Death Cult. But she won't be forced to remain under government control.

The question is: will the government give her a head start?

14 posted on 12/24/2009 8:52:06 AM PST by Cheburashka (Lesson #1 from Battlestar Galactica: Never turn your back on your toaster.)
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Mind you, if I was a local pastor, I’d have a chain of unmarked vehicles ready to go: she walks out the door on her birthday and. . .disappears.


15 posted on 12/24/2009 9:02:07 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Ev Reeman
Any American citizen should have the right to choose their own religion and not be forced by the state or federal government to endure counseling on Islam when that is not their wish.

I'm with you here. But what is your response to Rifqa's parent's contention that she's just 17 years old, a minor who is very impressionable and got involved with people who influenced her against her better judgment ?

Sure, we're a free country, but has it been our tradition that minors have a right to choose what they want to believe in ?
16 posted on 12/24/2009 9:34:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

In some states, 17 is THE LEGAL AGE. If I were her I would move to one of those states, find a job and start making a living while also attending school and graduating and getting a degree.


17 posted on 12/24/2009 9:49:05 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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re: Sure, we’re a free country, but has it been our tradition that minors have a right to choose what they want to believe in ?

Your point is well taken, but, though I am no legal expert by any means, the practice of some Muslim families to do bodily harm to their own family members who convert to Christianity is well established - not only in Muslim countries, but also this heinous practice has unfortunately occurred several times in the U. S.

Rifqa has expressed repeatedly her fear that she will be harmed or even killed. There is a well established basis to justify her fear.

Also, it’s one thing for the state to step in and “take” a child away from his/her parents - but, in this case, Rifqa has asked or even begged for protection.

She is not 5 or 8 or 12 years old. She is 17. Her character and accomplishments as a student are well documented. She is not some runaway, love sick child - no, she has demonstrated a pattern of responsible behavior. I think this must be taken into account by the authorities when determining whether or not her fears are justified.

I understand the parental issues as well, but when dealing with Islam, or any other religion - the pattern of behavior by practioners of that religion must be taken into account as to the validity of a perceived threat.


18 posted on 12/24/2009 10:08:39 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve seen what muslim counseling looks like. Think Ft. Hood and the muslim counselor himself.


19 posted on 12/24/2009 10:56:18 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: org.whodat

The right isn’t restricted to citizens. And, underage or not, if one chooses atheism, there are no such measures as those Rifqa faces.


20 posted on 12/24/2009 10:58:01 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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