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Feinstein 'Assumes' Commerce Clause Gives Congress Unlimited Authority to Mandate Health Insurance
CNS News ^ | December 23, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 12/23/2009 1:36:25 PM PST by IbJensen

(CNSNews.com) – Senator Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) said that Congress has the authority to mandate that people buy health insurance and that there is no constitutional limit on Congress’ power to enact such mandates, adding that this unlimited authority stemmed from the Commerce clause of the Constitution.

The health care bills in both the House and Senate require that every American purchase a health insurance policy. At the Capitol on Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked Sen. Feinstein: “Where in the Constitution does Congress get the authority for an individual health insurance mandate?”

Feinstein said: “Well, I would assume it would be in the Commerce clause of the Constitution. That’s how Congress legislates all kinds of various programs.”

CNSNews.com followed up by asking Sen. Feinstein whether this broad power had any limits: “If there’s a health insurance mandate, is there a limit to that authority? Is there something that can’t be mandated?”

Feinstein responded: “My own view is that there is not, within health insurance.”

The Commerce clause is found in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution. It states the numerous powers authorized to Congress, including the power “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among several States, and with the Indian tribes.”

The Senate version of health reform imposes an historic mandate on all Americans, requiring them to have government-approved health insurance, either through an employer or individually. The mandate also can penalize people with a surtax ranging from $500 to nearly $1,500 per year if they do not have a health insurance policy.

The bill, which looks certain to pass the Senate sometime on Christmas Eve, is unpopular with the public, garnering the support of barely 40 percent of Americans, according to recent national polls. Those numbers led Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele to accuse Congress of “flipping the bird” to the American people.

“This is a bad bill, it is bad, certainly for individuals and enough is enough,” Steele said in a conference call on Monday. “I am tired of Congress thumbing its nose and flipping a bird to the American people. I’m tired of this Congress thinking it knows better than me and my family how to provide for our health care now and in the future. I’m tired of this Congress not listening to me and to the American people – to all of us.”

In 1994, when the Clinton administration attempted to push a health care reform plan through a Democratic Congress that also mandated every American buy health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office determined that the government had never ordered Americans to buy anything.

“The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States,” the CBO analysis said. “An individual mandate would have two features that, in combination, would make it unique. First, it would impose a duty on individuals as members of society. Second, it would require people to purchase a specific service that would be heavily regulated by the federal government.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: commerceclause; fineswine; healthcare; obamacare; partyofdeath
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To: IbJensen
There will be a lawsuit to strip out the fee and individual mandate

Yes there will!

This will be the most important lawsuit in at least 100 years, because its meaning will go well beyond health care. If the Supreme Court sides with Congress, the Pandora's box is wide open. We will face unlimited governmental control over our lives.

This will no longer be the land of the free.

21 posted on 12/23/2009 1:54:29 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: GeronL
Have you ever been forced by government fiat to buy a product from a private business?

Yes. Car insurance. Honestly, I'd rather be required to buy something from the private sector than be forced to buy "public options" like social security and medicare.

22 posted on 12/23/2009 1:55:04 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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To: IbJensen

Feinstein does not determine what is Constitutional, therefor her ‘opinion’ is just that.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 1:55:19 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Huck

Well, it’s time to draw the line. I wasn’t here in Roosevelt’s day and I was rather preoccupied with fighting the communists in Johnson’s time, but I’m here now and fully engaged today.

And I say not only no, but HELL NO to this tyranny!!

Don’t know exactly what we can do short of rebellion, but we’ll figure out something. In the meantime, I refuse to buy it and I refuse to vote for liberals or RINOS!!

JUST VOTE THEM OUT!!

FUBO!! Same goes for all Democrats and any Republican who refuses to abide by his oath to support and defend the constitution, so help me God!!


24 posted on 12/23/2009 1:59:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: Huck

But only if you own or drive a car. Same with Social Security or Medicare, only if you work. What makes ObamaCare different is that you are being forced to buy health insurance just because you happen to be born a citizen of the United States.


25 posted on 12/23/2009 2:00:28 PM PST by technically right
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To: IbJensen

The Dems.

Communists all, they extract from the Constitution what they will that suits their agenda. That DiChiFi thinks health is just another “commerce” item speaks volumes of how they make it up as they go along.. and the opposing party is too weak to stop them because they are led by dolts and idiots.

God save this nation,, if he will.

Merry Christmas, CONgre$$.

Those many that can discern corruption for themselves can’t wait for next November.


26 posted on 12/23/2009 2:00:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: Huck

Socialist State governments can go overboard too.

JUST VOTE THEM OUT!!


27 posted on 12/23/2009 2:01:00 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: delapaz
Exactly, we lost this fight somewhere around 1934.

That's how I see it. I don't see how on earth you deem this outside their scope of power while retaining social security and medicare. And we know they aren't going away. One of these days I have to visit FDRs grave so I can spit on it.

28 posted on 12/23/2009 2:01:18 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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To: IbJensen

You know, I was thinking about the various arguments advanced by the LibTards for their various robbing hood schemes to redistribute wealth and set up a permanent power base of dependent Americans who can be relied upon to vote for the authors of their free health care, free housing, free education, free money, etc.

One of the arguments is that the constitution has broad language about “providing for the general welfare”. Of course, there are clear originalist interpretations that that clause is not meant to give the 535 thieves in Washington or the one in the White house free reign to carry out their plans for lifetime job security.

But there is a simpler argument that, even a liberal could understand (since they obviously can’t understand Madison, Jefferson or Hamilton). If “the general welfare” is to be understood to mean anything that would promote general welfare, the concept is so elastic that it is limitless, encompassing even the most grandiose schemes. After all, if the “rich” could be taxed to support everyone else, by simple math, you are promoting the “general welfare”. The rich, being in the minority, the result is the majority of people are better off if the rich are paying for everything. On average, the whole society is better off and presto! you’ve promoted the general welfare.

Now what this means is that, as Rush likes to say: why not a minimum wage of $100 an hour or $1,000? Or why not provid a car or a house for everyone? Why not the latest electronics and so on? After all, if the rich would pay for everyone else to have these things, most of society would be doing a lot better.

Simply put, it is an ad absurdum argument. One can see that the same logic that supports the Obamacare monstrosity can be made to support anything and everything. If that were true, then the clause is nonsense. Ergo, that cannot be the correct reading and Obamacare has no constitutional basis in the general welfare clause.


29 posted on 12/23/2009 2:01:32 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Huck

Not a good example. You aren’t forced to buy car insurance because you aren’t — legally — forced to drive a car, and, in any case, it’s not the Fedgov that’s doing the “forcing”.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 2:01:44 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: IbJensen
The mandate also can penalize people with a surtax ranging from $500 to nearly $1,500 per year if they do not have a health insurance policy

Just make it 500 to 1500 a day. Screw it. I ain't payin that one neither.

31 posted on 12/23/2009 2:03:22 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Huck

We are not required to buy car insurance here in the Live Free or Die state but I can tell you that if you own anything, like a house, you would be pretty stupid not have car insurance....it is kind of a capitalistic like approach....


32 posted on 12/23/2009 2:04:03 PM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: Jim Robinson
Americans need to keep these arrogant asses so busy in court they won't have time for anything else!

No more Senate or Congressional hearings; it's time for the people's court!

33 posted on 12/23/2009 2:04:44 PM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

She’s a cockroach.


34 posted on 12/23/2009 2:05:34 PM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: GeronL
Have you ever been forced by government fiat to buy a product from a private business?

No, the gov't taxes me and buys the product for me.

35 posted on 12/23/2009 2:06:44 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: IbJensen

We lost our freedom.


36 posted on 12/23/2009 2:06:50 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: IbJensen
Feinstein said: “Well, I would assume it would be in the Commerce clause of the Constitution. That’s how Congress legislates all kinds of various programs.”

Dianne Feinstein, once again, has taken defining steps, to prove to one and all, she is a dumb-ass.

37 posted on 12/23/2009 2:06:53 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m praying for the health of the correct handful of Supreme Court Justices.....One more goes and Zero’s got the trifecta.


38 posted on 12/23/2009 2:08:38 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: IbJensen

The assumption = fail.
We shall soon find out.


39 posted on 12/23/2009 2:08:56 PM PST by cranked
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To: Huck
Really? So I don't have to pay Social Security taxes? I don't have to pay medicare taxes? All this time I thought I was being forced to buy gubmint run retirement insurance and gubmint run health insurance.

You only have to do that if you are dumb enough to work to support yourself and your family /s

40 posted on 12/23/2009 2:09:13 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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