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To: fortheDeclaration

I watched the vote. I know it was close.
I’d love nothing more than for this bill to be killed, but that would be a political miracle. “His” presidency is centered around the passage of this authoritarian legislation is some form.


59 posted on 12/24/2009 11:42:41 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
I watched the vote. I know it was close. I’d love nothing more than for this bill to be killed, but that would be a political miracle. “His” presidency is centered around the passage of this authoritarian legislation is some form.

The more the truth comes out on these BILLS, not 'Bill' the more they will be rejected by the public.

The delay in voting to reconcile will only lead to more pressure on the House Democrats.

If they want this to be their last term, they can vote for the Senate version with it's pro-abortion language.

The Democrats retook the House by running anti-abortion Democrats in conservative districts.

They won't survive voting for the Senate version.

60 posted on 12/24/2009 4:09:51 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: onyx

onyx, it’s more than ideological. As they stare down the barrel of the gun that is the 2010 elections, the Dems will want to get some goodies like the “moderate” Senators got. It’s their last chance at any decent pork for a long, long time.

Even if they manage to keep the Senate bill intact ideologically, they won’t be able to resist the pork. They’ll stretch the CBO tricks to the limit. Like a flock of vultures, they’ll tear the corpse apart.

You are right that Obama has made this the be-all and end-all of his presidency and every Democrat is treating Obama as if he were a retarded child, needing some victory of some kind to help his self-esteem.

He is an adult and he can just let his presidency be defined by his military success, uh, his foreign policy, uh, his leadership, uh, well, something.


64 posted on 12/24/2009 5:40:42 PM PST by AmishDude
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