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Eyewitness: How China sabotaged climate talks
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | December 23, 2009

Posted on 12/23/2009 12:40:29 AM PST by myknowledge

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To: myknowledge
...instead sending a second-tier official in the country's foreign ministry to sit opposite Obama himself

And he claims he's winning the respect of the world. What a clown. They know they can walk all over him and that's all that appeasement will get him.
21 posted on 12/23/2009 1:47:17 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: myknowledge

Obviously, the ChiComs have realized that the whole CO2 thing is a fraud. The Sun and the Volcanos control how hot the earth is, not man.


22 posted on 12/23/2009 1:49:03 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: myknowledge

Thank you, China.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 1:59:56 AM PST by Irenic
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To: TigersEye

>> Sanity must be a fickle spirit that appears where ever and whenever it feels like it. Whatever moves it it’s a welcome breeze when it comes.

Then there are those of us who chalk it up to the LORD, working in His mysterious ways.


24 posted on 12/23/2009 2:16:09 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: myknowledge

Sun Tzu at his finest...


25 posted on 12/23/2009 2:43:35 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: myknowledge; Delacon; SteamShovel; SolitaryMan; grey_whiskers; IrishCatholic; Darnright; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 12/23/2009 2:47:20 AM PST by steelyourfaith (This space for rent.)
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To: myknowledge

What is funny, China liked Bush and the left is now trying to make them the new Bush.


27 posted on 12/23/2009 2:54:58 AM PST by dila813
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To: Truth29
it does sound like China and India have saved the planet from the Gaea worshipers and the neomarxists trying to destroy the economies of the West
...which, when you think about it, is pretty freaking ironic...
28 posted on 12/23/2009 3:03:40 AM PST by samtheman
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To: myknowledge

You gotta love the Chinese on this one....
But it’s also India Brazil and many other developing nations that “sabotaged” the global warming lunatics from developed nations

Cheers for China and India for not buying into fake science
I make liberals cry when I tell them that China will undermine all their CO2 emissions schemes.

I love their clean coal scam which basically means you invert the smokestack and pump CO2 into the ground to be “sequestered” as they put it. Most harebrained enviro-scheme ever. Most unscientific scheme concocted by liberal arts majors

What is 0bama but a liberal arts major with zero science smarts in his empty skull?


29 posted on 12/23/2009 3:06:23 AM PST by dennisw
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To: myknowledge

The ChiComs....being the heirs to the Middle Kingdom racists that they are....loved rubbing the Kenyan’s nose in the dirt. Making him look the fool. The blathering nincompoop fool flailing about at imaginary ghosts of global warming

Actually Angela Merkel, Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd and other lib leaders are just as idiotic and unscientific


30 posted on 12/23/2009 3:15:32 AM PST by dennisw
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To: myknowledge

I just love how these so-called environmentalists want to decrease the output of CO2—a by-product of every manufacturing process, as well as of every living thing—while completely ignoring some of the serious pollution problems that still exist.

Mexico, right across our border, has some of the most seriously polluted places one can imagine. The maquiladoras create absolute cesspools of toxic waste, and the borders are no more efficient at keeping the pollution out of the US than they are at keeping the illegal “immigrants” out.

If those self-proclaimed “environmentalists” really care about the environment, why don’t they put their efforts into cleaning up the areas around the maquiladoras—into helping find a solution to keep them from polluting so much while keeping up their manufacturing capability that’s so essential to lifting Mexican citizens out of poverty? Or—heck—there are so many constructive things that can be done in the name of the environment—but I guess those actually require work. Getting hysterical about a non-polluting natural gas requires no effort at all.


31 posted on 12/23/2009 3:20:29 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: myknowledge

Remember, China ALWAYS acts out of self-interest. They were NOT going to agree to anything that hampered their economy. On top of that, they wanted to block anything that would kill OUR economy because a broke America can’t make good on its massive debt.

They know AGW is a scam, and further that they stand to lose a LOT if it continues. Ditto Russia.

Isn’t it scary that the actual communists understand the AGW hoax and its potential for economic damage better than many in the so-called “free” West?


32 posted on 12/23/2009 3:25:39 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: j. earl carter

The only reason they didn’t IMHO is because they hold so many US treauries (ie debt). A bankrupt US means a bankrupt China.

Now, if they (and India for thay matter) succeed in moving to a hard gold-backed currency - which they are clearly trying to do - then they’ll do exactly what you suggest. Our only hope is that sanity prevails in the US first...


33 posted on 12/23/2009 3:31:37 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: myknowledge

1000 Thanks to China for sabotaging the climate talks!


34 posted on 12/23/2009 3:34:11 AM PST by saneright
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To: myknowledge
The German newspaper Die Welt ran an article describing an enraged Obama barging into a meeting and confronting China's Wen.

Small Dead Animals picked it up and a SDA reader posted a very good translation. Scroll down a little to make sure you get the reader's version rather the than google translation.

Wretchard at Belmont Club linked up to the Small Dead Animals post with one of his own. As always, great comments at BC.

Interesting reading. I haven't seen this mentioned on any other German source. Die Welt is a quality source, IMHO.

Small Dead Animals - Then he packed his bags and flew home.

Belmont Club - The Copencabana

35 posted on 12/23/2009 3:43:47 AM PST by longjack
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To: FormerACLUmember; myknowledge

Good post. Who thought we would ever see the day when:

- China takes stronger capitalist pro-growth actions than the US during the mini-depression, and sees a much faster recovery

- China maintains a strong pro-manufacturing, pro-jobs economy while the US sheds jobs and continues to penalize manufacturing

- China gets it right on enviro-terrorism while the US passes the greens billions in new cash and new squeaky toys

- China aggressively runs around the globe locking-in future fossil energy positions at the lowest costs in decades (while the US sits on its hands and scuttles nearly all new coal fired electric plants because of regulatory uncertainty)

Now tell me, which nation is capitalist? Which nation has the biggest political risks when it comes to 30-40 year energy decisions?


36 posted on 12/23/2009 3:47:36 AM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I'd take that with a grain of salt, because the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
37 posted on 12/23/2009 3:53:30 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
China is not communist.

China is a totalitarian capitalist nation.

There are thousands of private for profit companies in China including many U.S. companies.

In communism/marxism private property and private companies are not allowed.

38 posted on 12/23/2009 3:56:38 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: Nobel_1; All

A lot of what you say is true. But China is not a communist country.

China is a totalitarian capitalist nation.

There are thousands of private for profit companies in China including many U.S. companies.

In communism/marxism private property and private companies are not allowed


39 posted on 12/23/2009 3:58:40 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: myknowledge
I'd take that with a grain of salt, because the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.

More accurately, "One of my enemies who becomes an enemy to another of my enemies is useful but is still an enemy."
40 posted on 12/23/2009 4:04:41 AM PST by aruanan
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